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Jace finds ways to make your own wisdom your eventual downfall ...
Liberal abuse of Jace's Archivist, Erasure and lots of draw. Your opponent's own full hand becomes their demise. There's a very big combos in there like Evacuation + Reliquary Tower + Archivist (force them to have a massively bloated hand and shed half of it), Archivist + Erasure (discard hand, get milled for same amount) and a well-timed evacuation + dreamborn muse (get milled for X, X being your massively overbloated hand).The trick is not letting it backfire on you: there's a lot of double-edged swords here, so use them carefully.
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like you said lots of double edged cards so you could always use something simple like elixir of immortality to shuffle your cards... also, you should consider a way to stay alive... you could alway use the good old isochron scepter + silence combo...
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Elixir is a nice idea: life and deck recycling in one. Isochron might be a bit above my budget, though. :( I'm thinking of switching the hedron crabs out for fog banks. Thoughts?
you do know isochron scepter is worth 5 $ right?
Hedron Crabs are excellent with any kind of fetch land. I run 4 in my mill deck, my favorite card.
Venser's Journal would be pretty good for this deck. Unlimited hand size and you gain life equal to the number of cards in your hand.
Competitive players scorn cards like howling mine and font of mythos, so I do too :P You seem to want some defences against creatures, so consider using leyline of singularity. Also take a look at my decks.
care to explain why?
STRATEGICMUFFINEXHAUSTED: In the case of card-drawing, the opponent will draw first, thus getting cardadvantage for doing zip. At your turn the cardadvantage disappears, but they had card advantage for a turn, and that's always a bad situation. leyline of singularity is extremely efficient in modern. It takes out tokens, elfcombo, splintertwin, eggs (Second sunrise), drdgelike stuff, and generally slows beatdown a little.
I'll argument for why the leyline can fit into a creatureheavy deck: First of all, the leyline can be built around, cutting some critters and including others, this will also make a deck less vulnerable against surgical/extirpate. Second, in any matchup with creatures, the leyline will allow both players to have only one of each creature, and if your creatures are the biggest, the leyline will work to your advantage. Third, instead of putting it in play at the beginning of the game, keep it on the hand, play one of each creatures only, then at the hight of the game play it, making sure your opponent suffers for having multiple creatures in play.
Wickeddarkman, your logic is flawed.First, Remodeling your entire deck just to include one card seems stupid. You've commented on Hedron Crab on my mill deck. What is better, a Hedron Crab milling your opponent 3 cards on turn 2 or 2 Hedron Crabs milling your opponent 6 cards on turn 2? Isn't having 2 Jace's Phantasm's swinging for 10 each turn better than one?Second, Mill decks aren't usually focused on huge creatures.The third suggestion is one that could work, but it just seems too restrictive. If I get 2 Hedron Crabs in my opening hand, I will want to play those two Hedron Crabs. I won't want a board wipe card in my hand making me only able to play 1 of them.
I think you might want to look into psychic spiral. With all the self destructive mill in this deck, that card will replenish your library and effectively mill your opponent out depending on when you use it. But I like the deck =]
Thank you, I hadn't thought of that. Done. :)
SOULOFMIRRODIN: We've been doing this all over the place, and I wont copypaste the usual comment in this post, so I'll let you win the discussion here :) Now that I've broken the pattern I'd like to adress another milling strategy. Island sanctuary, worship, mesmeric orb, ghoulcaller's bell, lantern of insight, darkblast, dreamtwist and the two other flashback millingcards in innistrad cycle. How do you think that would work out ?
It could work. It would be a bit easier to understand if you built a deck on it first.
SOULOFMIRRODIN: Working on it :)
Why not try some Mesmeric Orb? You seem to have some way to get the cards you self milled back into your library, Mesmeric orb is great in those kind of decks, they don't cost too much either! :)
Huh, that used to be a mainstay of my old mill decks. I don't know how I'd forgotten about it. Thanks for the reminder, added three. :)