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"Scar the face of God" - As taken from a very old Latin poem. The correct way to say it is "Cicatrix faciem Dei" Current project to make a viable Extraction design for Modern. Any suggestions would be appreciated...currently I and my colleges are stumped =/ This is the current design we're going with.
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It's a placeholder for the current project I'm working on -- A viable Extraction deck for Modern format =P The phrase is a line from a very old Latin poem =]
Yay for SWN going modern! Now if only I can get you to make a monetarily cheap extraction...
Well this is our current "frame" for it...We're having a hard time with the landbase...=/ Modern just totally castrated the mighty Iso-Seek, and PAL is weakened too what with Pox out of the picture. Modern is not making me happy -_-
Listing deck as "finished" to make it public...might help =/
4 colors? I think that's really ballsdeep, man. a bit too ballsdeep. if anything I'd ditch blue. yeah fatespinner is AMAZING, but tarmogoyf is so easily splashable, as is hide/seek for the fact it only requires 1 white mana. fatespinner takes 2 blue, and with the mess of black mana you need to hit the double black costs of this deck, I wouldn't risk it. how many lands are you thinking on running? i like luminarch... a lot, and I loveee bitterblossom. but i think fatespinner and counter balance can go... so can blue all together, really.
We wanted to try an altered version of my WBUG design I made for PAL, due to its success, but I think you're right, Modern just limits things too much to go that route =/ But now I'm torn because Surgery is beastly with Ordeal, and makes it take a much smaller grave-count...
i agree, surgery + b,o. is nuts, but i mean, tarmogoyf by himself in such a limited format will win games. id rather have a playset of tarmogoyf than a 2 card interaction that screws your landbase :/
That's what we eventually decided too. It's a tough choice, since Surgery makes it so much easier, but overall I'm happy with what we've created thus far.
The only thing 'balls deep' about this deck is all the flesh sword swollowing going for this guys deck.
Remove the Dark Confidents for Phyrexian Arena? Why lose more than 1 life. -1 Luminarch Ascention -1 Bitter Blossom -1 BSZ +3 Psychic Surgery Why have Ordeal without the Surgery? Just my $0.02
Or remove Fatespinner and a Living End for the 3 Surgery and 1 counterbalance 1 for another thoughtseize?
This deck is for the new Modern Foermat... Arena can't be played. Surewhynot: I'm looking at options, I'll be back with ideas later... But damn your right :/ Check out some of my Modern decks? I'm back in the building and will they to add a deck a day (if I can have that many ideas without losing quality)
I havent heard of Modern yet, can you explain what it is? Sorry SureWhyNot for a wasted post here, ignore it.
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ld/144 It's basically Legacy, except all the speed is gone and ever deck got its balls chopped off -_-
Balls gone... sounds.. Painful... you should check out my newest deck SWN
So wait, why can't Phyrexian Arena be played in modern, its printed after 8th edition.
Hmmm... Nvm lol. Generally Confidant is better as most decks (especially most w him) have an average cmc of about 1, plus you can easily get him killed if he is endangering you. But the curve here is so high maybe arena would be better... Oh, and surewhynot? I found the answer :) If your nice I will tell you what it is.
Pleeeeeeeeeaaaaaasssse? =}
What if you combined Bitterblossom, Thoughtpicker Witch, and Fatespiner?
Hmmm...I'll run it by the others for sure. We might just take that and make an entirely different design to be honest. Appreciate the help man =]
your latin is terrible...
Yeah, THAT was the central focus of this deck. <.<
If you have an issue with the Latin, then take it up with the Latin scholar who wrote that line in a poem 2,000 years ago. Yeah...
F** around, get killed. Lol I'm just joking, I'm not that hard-up...
it's not a problem your translation just says something along the lines of. Scars and you make he is about god.
It's not Sure's translation. If the poem is 2,000 years old, chances are it's been translated by some monks in some monastery during the renaissance. And you know how monks love to f*** with people.
He's right though... I read the title and that's definitely not an accurate translation. Et doesn't fit in there at all.
I took it verbatim (how's that for latin =P) from the poem, so even though it is technically wrong, I felt it would be better to keep it as is =]
Fair enough then. Meaningful phrases in Latin are very cool :)
erm...you've got a whole lot of spells to shuffle which make your opponent shuffle his library...so maybe psychic surgery may pay off?
"http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ld/144 It's basically Legacy, except all the speed is gone and ever deck got its balls chopped off -_- yesterday by surewhynot" I think you're looking at it all wrong. The format fosters a meta entirely different than Legacy, so Modern hasn't lost any speed nor have its decks been neutered -- Modern never was Legacy and never had any speed to lose ;) So anyways, it was predicted (by Joe I think) that Modern would be creature intensive, and WnB pointed out to me that extractors enjoy the benefits of early game stalls which aren't as efficient outside of Legacy (Ports, Tabernacles, etc..) Any kind of board wipe you'd use to fuel a bitter bomb will also be more expensive, egro would it be appropriate to consider ramp in place of stalls? Like BoP? By way of board wipes, if Modern /is/ creature intensive, I would think Day of Judgment (esp. with 4x Bitterblossom) could drop a decent bitterbomb. It's one turn slower than Pox, but might even fuel a bigger bomb. If DoJ doesn't, then surely Oblivion Stone would, although there we go again, it's two turns slower than Pox and likely requires tapping out for two turns to set up. And following that train of thought further, we have Death Cloud (in place of BSZ?), which is Pox on frickin meth. Onto another thought, maybe Bitter Ordeal isn't cut out for Modern, what else can we use? I'm thinking the under appreciated Sadistic Sacrament might be an alternative. Certainly not in 3-colors though. But, it costs the same, and always extracts for 3. Not exactly ideal when a bitter bomb will usually extract 10-15 cards. Well there's the kicker (literally!). SS on Panoptic Mirror, you get a free 3 cards every upkeep, and can pay the kicker cost as you copy the spell, for the same cost as a bitter bomb, to extract 15. At any rate. I just woke up and am rambling about the various things I've been considering for my own modern extractor. I still like the archetype, but have yet to break into the competitive extraction scene.. so I may be missing the mark entirely.
Oh, and one last thing I've wanted to say. For land removal, I've never really been a fan of Ghost Quarter. Sure, it's highly efficient for removing pesky non-basic lands, but I want to strip the opponents land base entirely, not just replace it with something generic. Then cometh Psychic Surgery! Boom. Ghost Quarter just fought its way to the top of my list, right under Strip Mine and Wasteland :)
Or Leoion Arbiter (although a bit costly here, it is very good)
I think bitterblossom and darkconfidant are going to keep you from pulling off a successful luminarch's ascension, I would suggest cutting out white altogether, and maybe even trying to make this mono black.
ascention triggers at the end of the opponents endstep, and only checks that turn. therefor loss of life during his turn doesn't matter.
Oh and you might want to look into Haunting Echoes, I think that card might peek your interest
Haunting Echoes is something I forgot to mention in my very long comment. It costs more, but might be more effective with an MBC build for extractor, discard and removal with other extraction splashed in, and Haunting Echoes in place of Bitter Ordeal.
whatever the deck is.... the deck name was catch me very well
My internet has been down a while, so I haven't got to see what all madness you all have concocted, and I probably won't be able to tonight either. I'll be able to give an actual opinion on this, Ethan's Standstill Depths deck, one of the newer decks from Savage, and Joe's Modern Dirt... I have some catching up to do it would seem.
After poking around on this, I can say that while I like it, I'm not quite sold on it. It's fast enough for the format, but it's not quite refined as I enjoy extraction being. It's current design lacks stability. Sorry it took so long, some friends of mine moved today, so I've spent the week hanging out with them.
No problem dude, and actually this was "mark 1" of my designs. My latest deck (only one on page 9) is the latest design I have. It should be more to your liking, it is towards mine =P
You all just gave me an idea =P
what is extraction?
Extraction is removing cards from the deck, so you take away all the cards their deck needs before they can play them.
i would suggest running like doom blades or sliences for the isochron scepter. that way they cant do anything or you just blow up whatever they bring out.
Its combo'd with Seek, every turn remove a card from their deck from the game, it should hold off most threats and the luminarch and bitterblossom should provide defense
So, I mentioned to Joe about playing modern on ML. Would you be interested as well? If not modern, I'd be down for legacy too. Thing thats been holding me back is distance to get to any legacy events (and maybe in the future, modern as well), but ML pretty much solves that :D
cool deck can you tell me what i need for my goblin grenade deck?http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=219219
i'll be honest, i don't really know how to make extraction decks, but this one seems fine. :D I just wanted to ask for a favor, I want to start teaching Magic to my younger brother, so I'm trying to make him a no-brainer goblin deck. I would appreciate your words of wisdom :D http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=219401
Hey PAL king, can you look at my attempt at it? Its based off of yours (I pulled a goyf and thats a great way to use it) http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=220109 If not its cool, i just wanted opinions on it.
Bitterblossom banned :(