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Another idea I got for Modern Extraction thanks to all the helpful comments =] For those wondering, this is a play on words. The original, "Lux lucens in Tenebris" (Light shining in Darkness), is a well known religious phrase.
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Looks interesting. I never really got much into extraction. The closest I've gotten was traumatize/haunting echoes.
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It's certainly not for everyone. It's a completely different way of thinking, and the vast majority of people will find playing Extraction a frustrating affair...It's a warning I always try to give to anyone who wants to try out the deck type. I know 6 Extractors including myself. 2 of my friends at our local shop, and then 3 others who I talk to through email, etc. who are all very far from each other and myself. We are a rare breed =P
Very nice. I like this one a lot more :) First of all, you're using Stoneforge for Bonehoard and SoBM, which is awesome. I still think Bitter Ordeal would work with DoJ or Damnation, but I like the mill and discard control with Haunting Echoes much more.
I screwed around with the concept of creature blasts with Bitter Ordeal, but it just makes the whole thing so much more focused/specific...That's what makes Pox so damn good, it effects damn near everything! Poxtraction is called such because of how vital Pox is to making it work -- something I found out much more when trying to do it without Pox recently... Glad you like this man, I think it works nicely =] And everything is better in Orzhov =P
Ah, yeah. I never really thought about it, but now that you mention it I guess Pox really would mess with just about anything. I've always thought of it as just being "Damn that's annoying >.>" but I guess it's more like.. losing 1/3 of everything, including the best cards in your library.. Good luck ^-^
Err, just woke up so don't mind my half-formed thoughts XD I meant, I always thought of Bitter Ordeal as being the more powerful part of the two and Pox as more of a fuel and annoyance. But losing 1/3 of everything is really kind of what makes neutering their library so great, that's kind of hard for anyone to spring back from..
Ooo Orzhov! I love it already =) hmmmm... lets see.. how effective is Bonehoard in this deck? I feel like with thought picker your mainly going to be sacking the BB tokens? and those dont stay in the graveyard.. and with haunting echoes i feel like you dont plan on the opponent having creatures in their graveyard either. Would you mind checking my newest deck as well brosephina?
Ooops you already did =)
lolz yeah I did =P Oh and the idea with Bonehoard was that if all else fails I can just beat someone senseless...Still, I might switch it for Fire and Ice or Light and Shadow...I'm leaning more toward L&S because when combined with B&M, it offers defense from damn near everything. The bonuses to toughness take care of burn from red, and then the protections save me from all manner of spot removal and bouncing, and even Goyf!
Yea i would definitely go that route instead.. BH just feels like a weak choice for the deck imo. i changed up my affinty! give it a look will ya =)
Life's Finale is a nice extractor card. Well, I think it's an extractor. Wipes the board and then you can put 3 creatures from your opponent's deck into the graveyard. I'd love to try making an Extractor deck myself, it looks like a powerful build if you can remove your opponent's win condition.
Eh, it's a nice card, but not really for Extraction. It sort of is, but in a really weird and roundabout way that I don't particularly like =/
What's not to like about it?! It kills things and extract things! Just too roundabout and complicated?
I'll go out on a limb -- It's expensive and only extracts creatures. There are more cost effective ways to handle creatures, and iso-seek is an infinitely better method of extraction. Sure, keep an eye out for a deck I'm working on, called subTraction. I'll try to publish it this morning. It's a unique (and so far as I know, original) spin on extraction, but I'm having a hard time pulling it all together... so :)
Fair enough, it is expensive. But I haven't found anything else to wipe the board for a black and blue deck thats in standard. I'd switch it out if I found something though.
And considering it's only 1 more mana than Day of Judgement so it's not too bad.
I suppose, but "Extract" means to take out of the deck/hand/whatever and exile it. This just pulls out three things and dumps them in the 'yard =/ I know some people who love the card though, so to each their own =P
I see what you mean sure. I wasn't sure as to what Extract meant, thought it was graveyard and exile, not just exile. And I'm one of those people who loves the card. It's nice to remove everything on the board and then be able to remove any more creature threats in your opponents graveyard.
Hmmm, nice. Much more stable than the other one, I like it. In Modern some of the best ways I see aggro beating out control is because of Bitterblossom, and Stoneforge+Batterskull, and this has ways to deal with both of those very nicely. I'm a bit surprised by no Praetor's Grasp, but it oddly enough makes sense here. I think something that could be potentially useful is some sort of removal, such as perhaps PtE, Dismember, or Go for the Throat. It could help with threats that you might miss.
Thanks man, I have to say this version works about as well as it could for Modern's restrictions I think. I left out the Grasp because it is less useful without the colors to play most of the crap I'd probably want to steal/play...
Point taken. I also agree that this is about as good as it gets for extraction in Modern, it could devastate most every deck I've seen for the format so far :O
sure, you able to do me a favour? I have a deck I'm stuck with an not too sure what to do with it now. I want to try and get it up to tournament quality before Innistrad rotates in. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=197178
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=O And so have I.
I know this might be a dumb question to most but I'm going to ask anyway. :) if you have hide/seek on the Isochron scepter, are you able to pick wich part of the card you cast when activating the scepter? or do you have to pick what side of the card is on teh scepter when you put in on there?
Nope, you can choose to use Hide if you want. That's the great thing about the double-cards!
can you check out my artifact deck? im trying to get it soon http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=220524
sure, have you thought about switching out the sword of body and mind for feast and famine? I see it as a much more advantageous than BnM with the land untap.
I thought this was for Modern. alot of these cards are banned in Modern
I'd uuh look @ this <3 http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Resources.aspx?x=judge/resources/sfrmodern
Wow....last time I checked those weren't banned. At this rate are we going to be able to play anything in Modern? Damn.
The new banned list has led me to give up on the format. The criteria for a ban includes the desire to eliminate turn three combos, which is in and of itself reason for me not to play, but then they upped the ante and hated on blue by getting rid of Mental Misstep... Banning counters is never acceptable to me, excepting Mana Drain from Legacy. That thing would be format warping to the point of silliness. I renounce this format, and name it a perverse eternal format!
I agree dude, it looks like they're banning anything that might upset anyone. Mental Misstep made me laugh. MENTAL MISSTEP?! Really? It's only good in ~some~ situations! By this criteria, is Bloodghast going to get banned because it can come back? Is Lightning Bolt going because it deals too much damage? How about Tarmogoyf for the undeniable fact that with all this watering down it's going to be a nightmare for anyone trying to play... This format is hereby known as "Neutered", and I see it becoming the next mess, similar to what happened in Standard with Jace. Now there's going to have to be 4 Goyfs in every deck...thus only spoiled brats will play. Ah well, as long as they stay the hell away from Legacy...I'll be fine.
There is nothin wrong with the Modern banned list, the whole format was made to replace Extended with something more expancive yet not price out new players. that is just what it has done, and the banned list is just there so people have to come up with creative deck ideas instead of rehashing standard of 3 years ago or combining the dominant decks of 2006 and 2008. maybe mental misstep was a little premature but the rest looks spot on to me.
My point is that by banning so many things, unless they also ban Tarmogoyf, the format will NOT be the inexpensive alternative it was supposed to be. I already know I won't enjoy it because to me personally, it's just boring, but with nothing to take on Goyf, which is already about 65 bucks a piece...the price of any serious deck is going to be way too high for most people. It's what happened to Standard, and I really think it's going to happen here too.
Thank you for the link. I will now study this set up =)