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Poxtraction Aggrolock with the star being the powerful Tarmogoyf.
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Nice, it's making me really want to use the fatespinner in a deck... I think that's going to be the project I use the empty deck for. I didn't think I'd like 'goyf in a poxtraction at first, but after testing this I can barely see a reason NOT to run him. Really great deck, but I again question; Why in the nine rings of HELL do you use the River of Tears?
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1) It's an increadibly versatile land that allows me the mana I want at the times I want it, and faster than other lands of similar functions 2) It's my favorite land in the game. =]
As always - great deck ! I really like it :) I especially like your vamps and EDH too. Those two decks inspired me to make my own decks similiar to those :) It would be great if you could comment and give any advise or suggestion to my deck : http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=167180
Hmmmm.... I still don't see it, but this is the first of your extractors that I have looked at, so the learning continues. Also, River of Tears is RIDICULOUS. love it
Look at the card Pox. Now look at the card Bitter Ordeal. Imagine what I could do to your deck if I played Pox and then played Bitter Ordeal. These are called BitterBombs, or "really ****ing big Bitter Ordeals". This one is possibly the most aggro-oriented of the lot, with Tarmogoyf being absolutely insane post-Pox.
OH SH**! hot damn that is ridonkoolus!
There we go, now you get it =P
You guys are awesome, I've looked at many of the decks you've built and have learned many things. I'm trying now to build my decks and would greatly appreciate any Input you guys have to offer. This is my attempt at an Evil standard deck. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=169383
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hey, you are pro deck builder, i checked a lot of your decks and they are great. I have made an aggro land destroyer deck. I would appreciate any suggestion what should be change to make it better :) http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=167180
why forbidden orchard?
slight increase in creature sacrifices for the enemy. Active mana burdening in combination with Tabernacle. It also works nicely as a multi-color land with ignorable effects. It's mostly the burden created from it and Tabernacle.
Surewhynot, once again, your deck building has awed me. This probably isn't the first time I've commented on a deck, but I've been following you for a while, and learning from the things you do. The interactions that you create between your cards is borderline genius, and many times sheer genius. This is another one of those decks that simply kicks ass. I just wanted to thank you for continuing to be an inspiration to people like me who love the game, but don't always know quite how to make things work.
Also, if you get the chance, could you please check out and comment on my deck? It's a casual deck, so it's not standard, but it's a lot of fun and has plenty of tricks up it's sleeve. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=169333
now THIS looks like a fun deck! Surewhynot, you've once again dazzled the users of the vault. but that seems to be your daily routine. The only suggestions i could provide would be maybe blood chief ascension (alt-win), haunting echos, and small pox to use if pox isn't at hand. Otherwise, this looks real nice. ...now, if u would be so kind, could u explain why you have living end? it seems like it would usualy help your opponents more than u...
I'm just thinking on how I would play it, but using it to wipe both fields AGAIN, and then playing bitter ordeal would crush somebody. There's three bloodghasts, and three bitterblossom, and since a bitterbomb counts BOTH graveyards... That's a massive field being wiped, meaning a masssssssive bitterbomb.
thanks. i gets it now. i somehow overlooked the ability to mace a massive biterbomb..... well, i feel stupid.
Living End will win the game ever time. Honestly, once I suspend it, that's how long you have until I win. Because it is suspended, I can play other things in conjunction with it without it draining on my mana pool. The effects of Living End already make enormous Bitterbombs, but often because of it's suspend, I can play a Pox after Living End...and that will be large enough to make any deck incapable of winning.
nice decks, mind taking a look at mine? http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=168924 the uncommon mill but its nice :)
Pithing needle for Tormord's Cyrpt and other like it?
The concept of really f***nig bitter ordeals still awes me. I was just wondering if you might want lord of extinction, but you probably wouldn't. It would probably end up duper huge.
Dimir, Circu Lobotomist? Seems like he'd be a perfect fit. This could also be the deck to take advantage of Mirror of Fate following a Bitterbomb. I've been trying to think of a way to absolutely break the shit out of that card :) Good stuff man!
Oh! And River of Tears is one of my favorite lands too :D It is the perfect embodiment of flavorful card mechanics.
Thanks, really helped my Tarmogoyf deck :D http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=171063
this deck is way scary. could u check my decks out and give me feedback
Help mine please http://mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=171063
Thanks everyone for your nice comments. I just got back from an exhausting research trip...so this was a pleasent surprise to come back to. Still, I won't be looking at anyone's deck for a short while, I'm ****ing tired =/ @ Savaj: Circu is an excellent extraction creature, but Circu extracts are very geared towards him, and this really isn't, so it wouldn't make full effect of his abilities. My buddy has been working on a hybrid extraction deck that uses Mirror of Fate. It's just an experimental deck, but it might be cool. @ Slightly: Lord of Extinction would indeed be ****ing huge, but only for a short period of time, and he costs a lot of mana. Tarmogoyf costs almost nothing and can get to a massive size just as fast =p @ charlie: I have Phyrexian Revoker in the sideboard, just haven't uploaded it yet.
I like this list, but I am confused about the fatespinner. It appears to be a win-more type of card. 4 Tarmogoyf/2 Spinner would let you more reliably hit the goyf to win and would also allow you to draw more if hit by removal.
Another thing, 2 extirpates in the main deck seem a bit confusing. I would run those with 4+ discard effects that happen early (thoughtseize, inquisition, duress). If decks, don't try to exploit the graveyard, they may be dead in your hand for a little while. I can see their use in your living end combo, but your creatures have a relatively low curve. You could probably back them up with disruption and achieve a much faster win than with a slow combo that is more vulnerable to graveyard hate. If you were to replace them with thoughtseize, hymn or other disruption, you might be able to connect in for lethal damage much faster.
Surewhynot! i love the name of this deck lol counterbalance has always come across as an interesting card to me would you mind explaining its effectiveness? also! i built my own extraction deck! please give it a peek will ya? http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=171734
Counterbalance is a cheap (casting) recursive counter spell. That is the appeal, mostly. It can work in any deck as a "sure, why not? maybe it'll trigger, and if it does, great!" sort of dealio. To really make use of it though, you need a heavy cmc slot in your curve, such as surewhynot's cmc 2 slow, and to an extent 1 and 3. It works similarly to other cards that imprint or use counters to counter spells of equal casting cost, except counterbalance is more circumstantial and doesn't affect you. But as in the case with this deck, you can reliably assume it'll counter a few cmc 1-3 spells. It is also really abusable with scry effects, especially after a player casts the first spell of a turn (since they know the cmc of your top card).
To add on to that, Counterbalance with Sensei's Divining Top is a combo called "countertop". It involves abusing the scrying and drawing versatility of the Top with Counterbalance to lock down the other deck. @Dargo: The reason for the numbers of this deck are how they make it flow. The deck is a POXtraction, yet it uses just 2 Pox. It looks odd, but in reality, the other numbers make it show up with the correct probability. With Goyf at 3 and Extirpate/TS at 2, the relative probability of drawing Goyf is distinctly higher, but not too much so that I don't have the other cards I need when I want them. This also falls back to the effect of the Countertop in this deck. Whenever you run an aggro deck with Countertop, you will be constantly rearranging your draws, to the point where having 4 of something will give you mana burden (notice I have nothing at 4 of). 3-2 orientation creates a much more fluid ease between card frequencies and probabilities, and with a deck of this type, that is lethal. As for having 3 of Fate Spinner, she is priceless for the design of this deck. FS with suspend is a powerful mix, and adding in countertop and braids along with that makes for a frustrating forced hand for the opponent. She also is amazing for fueling Pox. If they choose to skip draw, then they have an enlarged field of permanents and they are going to try to out-aggro Goyf...not a good idea. If they skip attack, then they are loading up their hand and field permanent count. And if they skip playing, then they load up their hand and weaken their defense against my offense. Hope that makes more sense =P
well i guess i was understanding the countertop combo correctly it just seems like it would be a shoot and miss more often than not to me, but then again i've never used it so i wouldnt really know! thanks for helping me with my extraction! changes have been made how does it look now? :)
Well, I did it finally. I made a deck using the fatespinner(albeit not in the prison style I had hoped for), and it was a countertop bant to boot! Granted it didn't use Natural Order, but it's pretty fun so far. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=168576 Also, congratulations on hitting front page again! Seems to be a deck to deck occurrence now, but ah well.
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Hey, I would greatly appreciate some comments on my new deck. It is my first artifact deck, and I don't know if it would work, so I need some constructive criticism. After all, constructive criticism makes the world go round, and where would we all be if we didn't have it. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=171979
surewhynot I have been playing magic for only 8 months and looking through your decks, I have learned alot, and I am building my own prison deck, which i hope to post in the next couple days and would like opinions from the what seems to be the master of prison decks. =] If you would take a look at my first deck and give any advice would appreciate it. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=180971