Harder, Better, Faster, Strong..

by TheBroTRAIN on 28 June 2012

Main Deck (60 cards)

Sideboard (15 cards)

Instants (3)


Artifacts (2)


Enchantments (2)

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Deck Description

Thanks everyone for helping my deck make FRONT PAGE! Please feel free to follow me :D


being my first tournament deck this is a great confidence boost to my casual skill at deck building! :D

I've been bringing this deck to FNM for a while now. it has been doing pretty well for itself. and last night i brought it to a standard type 2 tournament and finished 1st place out of 15 people, with a record of 5-0/ 9-1.
if anyone can see anything else that could help this deck out even more that would be awesome!:D

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Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Legal in Modern
  • Legal in Vintage
  • Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger W/r

I like your deck, i would probably run 22 lands, and maybe more bonfire

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Posted 10 July 2012 at 22:08

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thx for the comment! ive been playing it for about 2 months now and the land seems to be fine each draw usually. i think ill run more bonfire once scars rotates out. speaking of that, any opinion on odric? im thinking he is going to be my replacement for Hero. if i do i think ill have to run 4 gathers and maybe cut down 1 thalia with the addition of more spells?

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Posted 10 July 2012 at 22:48

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hhmmmmmmhmhmhmhmhm......[searching database]........ I think Angel of Jubilation could be your ticket for honour..........Cathars' Crusade is fun.......................Burn at the Stake is plain tasty.............Gisela is very tasty............Herald of War is fun for humans........... Malignus is just funny........Nearheath Pilgrim?.................You might like vigilante justice...... Captain of the Watch is cool........ Crusader of Odric?......Fervor?........................Curse of Stalked Prey is a personal favourite of mine............Mikaeus, The Lunarch is fun......................yeah, that pretty much covers it, hope this helps

Check out my storm in standard deck: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=357783

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Posted 11 July 2012 at 04:25

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thanks for the comment!
i like the fervor actually. i want the deck to keep its speed after scars rotates out. thats my number 1 goal as well as keeping it as human filled as possible.

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Posted 11 July 2012 at 21:16

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Nice deck. Maybe a devine reflection would go well here and maybe a herald of war and maybe sublime angel would devistate with one attack. also if you could comment on my deck and give me some feed back i would appriciate it.

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=360057

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Posted 11 July 2012 at 13:59

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thanks for the comment!

devine might be a possibility. as for herald not so sure. by the time its out i usually want to win that turn or the next. and sublime angel wont work. espically with having odric in there. humans dont want to be attacking alone. im swinging with just about everything each turn. thanks for the ideas though!

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Posted 11 July 2012 at 22:18

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I didnt even see odric in there so ya sublime wont work at all. If anything else i would try and main board the o-rings for removal but other than that i got nothing

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Posted 12 July 2012 at 12:05

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I like it. R/W humans is a great way to go. How about Hellrider. A T5 Hellrider after a T4 Hero can be devastating. I run modern R/W humans and just built a standard verison of it. You left good suggestions on my G/W human deck so if you don't mind can you look at my R/W humans deck and let me know what you think: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=360187.

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Posted 11 July 2012 at 20:42

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thanks for the comment!

hellrider might find a way in actually. once scars is gone i think i might swing the deck direction to mass creatures to help out odric. that plus the hellrider could account for a big swing. completely forgot about him. but until then i dont think hellrider fits just yet.

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Posted 11 July 2012 at 23:00

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I know you asked me to look at this, but I really have no idea what I'm doing in standard ._.;

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Posted 12 July 2012 at 14:32

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well thanks anyway for the comment!

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Posted 12 July 2012 at 21:35

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Thalia should be sideboard... U gonna' need 2 more Townsfolk & 1 more Hunter...

According to mana curve, U don't need 24 lands, only 22... I'd drop a Cavern, 2 Plains & add 1 more Mountain...

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Posted 12 July 2012 at 15:09

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idk if i can agree on the thalia, just because of my local meta. i do think i will try the 2 less land and +1 gather, +1 bonfire, -1 thalia to side, and +1hunter. ill give that a shot and see how well it works for me tomorrow at FNM.

thanks Poet!

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Posted 12 July 2012 at 21:58

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Posted 12 July 2012 at 15:16

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Pretty solid and fast. You need Student of Warfare and Accorder Paladin. I think you need More board controls like Path to Exile, etc. How 'bout reckless waif, Keldon Marauders and Kargan Dragonlord? It would be a bad synergy with Honor the Pure though. I also have a Human deck focused on abusing Champion of the Parish and Norin the Wary synergy:
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=276236

Check out my other decks too:
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http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=221131
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=221137

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Posted 12 July 2012 at 15:19

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well those are interesting suggestions, but this deck is for standard so most of those wouldnt work. accorder is a really cool card and i like it. but im not really going for mass army battle cry right now. thanks for the comment and ill check your deck out!

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Posted 12 July 2012 at 22:01

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im surprised this deck is growing in likes rather fast i think. thanks for the comments and like everyone! really wanna get this deck out there. i strongly believe it has legs for standard!

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Posted 12 July 2012 at 22:11

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This deck has potential but I think it's got some kinks to fix

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Posted 13 July 2012 at 04:57

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really im not sure what those kinks are :p but thats why i put it up here. haha thx for taking a look at it though!

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Posted 13 July 2012 at 16:37

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If you're gonna run Thalia, why run Honor of the pure and the swords plus bonfires and Gather the townsfolK? Seems to me like wasted space. Fill that space with fast humans to do quick and brutal damage!

Or am I missing something?

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Posted 13 July 2012 at 04:49

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yea its at 11 non creature spells now. a little more then i had orginally intended. i cant take thalia out just because of my local meta, soooooo what about -1 bonfire, -1 gather +1 odric, and +1 thalia?

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Posted 13 July 2012 at 16:39

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Thalia NEEDS to be a four-of.
Combo/Control decks are running 4-of's in legacy and vintage for a reason! It's a house at hosing blue counterspell and R/B removal spells from slowing you down much.

Other than that, about the only thing I would change would be to pop the O-rings in the mainboard so you have a way to deal with any large enchantment/creature they land that you don't have a creature-based answer to. I usually play about 4 in my white decks, as a lot of decks just have no answer to them.

Any chance you could look at my Infect U/R deck?
It's combo based, can win between T2 to 5 usually, but I'm looking for advice to make it better.
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=370773
Cheers.

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Posted 05 August 2012 at 22:55

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i can see thalia being a 4 of. for me it just came down to my local meta. its about half aggro half control. she is amazing for stopping control and green giest aggro. and it kinda of goes the same way for the o rings. im usulally using fiend hunter for win con vs those big creatures like titans and will bring in o rings instead when i vs control. thanks for the comment and like. ill check your deck out.

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Posted 16 August 2012 at 18:39

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If you get out a lot of creatures Burn at the Stake could be useful and so could Fervor. Could you check out my mono red deck? Thanks. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=368704

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Posted 06 August 2012 at 06:51

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i actually have been trying fervor. i found it to actually slow me down rather then make it faster. i have a better spell to play about 90% of the time instead of fervor. usually a silver blade, honor, or readying a mauler for a t4 hero win. thanks for the suggestions and ill check your deck out.

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Posted 16 August 2012 at 18:43

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Why not change the name to: Hardest, Best, Fastest, Strongest W/R Deck?
I'm really sorry I'm not that good in Standard XD. Have you considered Student of Warfare? I think your deck is already good and well-rounded. I can't think if a good card to add. Two Thumbs UP TheBroTRAIN! Always stay this good.

I hope you could give me some short advices on your free time with my decks here:
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http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=350073 - Praefatio
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=364110 - The Egoist
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=372895 - Forever Again
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Thanks, Follow me ^^,

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Posted 18 August 2012 at 18:12

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haha thanks man! this is actually my first standard tournament deck. student of warfare isnt standard leagal so i dont have a place for him ;p ill try to keep up the good work and i'll follow you :)

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Posted 18 August 2012 at 21:04

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ughh, forgot about that. I just made it obvious that I'm not a standard player >.<. But hey, you've already made this deck perfect! Nice one TheBroTRAIN!

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Posted 19 August 2012 at 13:55

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haha thats perfectly fine bro! :p and hey thanks. i had some help from others but thanks man. its a nie confidince boost having my first deck make the top page. rather exciting haha!

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Posted 20 August 2012 at 00:16

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http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=371126
Check out my blue white exalted?
To e honest I dot know what else can be done with your deck just given te volume of standard players on this post I figured I could et someone to look at my deck

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Posted 18 August 2012 at 23:04

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yea ill make sure to give it a look. im actually gonna try to work on a B/W exhaulted soon i think. yea im not sure what else can be done either besides refining the sideboard for deck this one struggles against. thanks for the comment!

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Posted 20 August 2012 at 00:18

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Also boost now your top deck today

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Posted 18 August 2012 at 23:10

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War falcon might be good since you have a lot of soldiers

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Posted 18 August 2012 at 23:36

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Around the World.

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Posted 19 August 2012 at 02:01

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Posted 19 August 2012 at 02:22

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I think when scars rolls out you can keep up this decks speed and intensity by focusing on tokens. So thatcher's revolts and intangible virtues should really help maybe even krenko's command
That way the red can help keep you in control and your white will make an nice quick and cheap army. I like how this deck flows through for sure, really nice!

Can you check out my Dragon Tribal?
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=373948

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Posted 19 August 2012 at 02:26

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yea thats going to be the hardest part when scars rotates out. im thinking tokens + odric are going to be the path this deck goes. ive had friends suggesting resto angel to replace hero, but i dont really see what considerable amount of help she would be. the thatcher's mightttttt find a way in along with kurin striker since i might go the token route. gonna have to do alot of play testing for this one i think :s

ill take a look soon as i can thanks for looking at mine. i really appreciate it!

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Posted 20 August 2012 at 00:22

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Not a problem I really like the deck! Also the Resto Angel flickers your creatures so any etb abilities retrigger, and and spells targeting them don't hit.

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Posted 20 August 2012 at 03:08

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I have a question how is it that I keep coming across decks like the ones I see here on this site. Its just odd. I played a deck like this about 4 months ago. The one problem it has is that some times it gets hung up. Some of the newer enchantments can make this deck even better.

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Posted 19 August 2012 at 03:07

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really all the times ive played it that ive gotten hung up was when i get hit by a slagstorm really. or just the random bad draws. as for the enchantments im not sure which your talking about? ive already play tested fervor and i found it to actually slow me down.

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Posted 20 August 2012 at 00:24

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I had been playing a list similar to this for quite some time, and it was pretty solid. It has some tough matchups with Delver and Zombies though, so I would definitely suggest 3 Thalia in the sideboard and at least 3 Bonfires mainboard. :)

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Posted 19 August 2012 at 13:36

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yea delver is always the biggest problem. luckily for me there is only 1 guy that plays delver and he isnt around that much xD for my local meta the thalia makes main board for 2 reasons, i have a good amount of controlers and STRANGLEROOT. so she usually is in 99% of the time unless im mirror matching. thanks for the look over!

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Posted 20 August 2012 at 00:27

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I think attended knight should be blade splicer. It's more power, and though a little weaker to vapor snag i find it can be a very effective threat. It's also helpful against sword of war and peace to have a colorless body.

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Posted 19 August 2012 at 18:58

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Also, why no cavern of souls?

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Posted 19 August 2012 at 19:00

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i have 3 caverns? and is splicer a soldier? that could have been a possibility but right now im kind of shifting it into rotation. its kind of late to search of splicer as by the time i get back from afghanistan the rotation will be completed haha. thanks tho!

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Posted 20 August 2012 at 00:33

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Nice deck!
Check out mine Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=363751

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Posted 19 August 2012 at 22:40

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hey guys i have a thought for rotation, for the heroes put in resto angel, and for berserkers put in kessig malcontents? bouncing it with an army of tokens could be a good win con? thoughts??

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Posted 20 August 2012 at 00:37

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It sounds good, but how well will it work? Could you make/post a deck with the changes (I'm more of a visual person.)?

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Posted 20 August 2012 at 02:40

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ill try and get to it!

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Posted 20 August 2012 at 17:33

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Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=376746

here you go KJSJ3.

let me know what you think

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Posted 20 August 2012 at 18:07

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This deck is Fantastic!
can someone help me with a wincon for my Perilous Summoning deck?
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=376627

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Posted 20 August 2012 at 09:15

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http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=364551

i would get burn at the stake

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Posted 22 August 2012 at 00:04

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Interesting, exactly the same name and Build I had up a month ago and that got nowhere in votes. This forum is fickle at its best.

But needless to say, I like the deck, since I built it, a month ago.

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Posted 23 August 2012 at 11:08

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well it may have the same name which is odd, but it not really any where near the same ^_^ i did have mine out earlier. did you post it to other peoples deck links asking for comments on it?

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Posted 23 August 2012 at 17:38

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Liked! If only Bonfire of the Damned wasn't so G*d D*mn expensive we could throw some more in there.

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Posted 23 August 2012 at 13:58

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well i dont thinki really need anymore then 2 in at once. usually only stick the sB bonfire in vs tokens or a mirror match. and they they were a pain to get, kinda costly for standard but it does the job, and it does it very well lol

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Posted 23 August 2012 at 17:40

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nice! love the deck!

if you have time, please take a look at a standard deck im trying to make. thanks!!!

Deck Link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=383048

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Posted 10 September 2012 at 01:04

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when scars rotates out i would go hellrider, also stormblood just sucks in this deck he doesnt always get counters. i would try knight of glory you can swing for three turn two or do it with gather.

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Posted 18 September 2012 at 16:47

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i have to completely disagree that stormblood sucks. i have look at a lot of variants of this deck and just about each one of them has it. so i threw it it and it does work wonders. its not usually a 1st choice play on t2 but wheni dont have anything, its a great card. thank you for taking a look! feel free to follow me and i shall return the favor!

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Posted 18 September 2012 at 18:47

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Hey there, returning the comment. :)
Honestly, this deck is pretty solid. You've got the necessary white Human cards in Thalia, Champion, Silverblade, and Bladehold. Anthems instead of lords, haste instead of mana accel, and swords instead of Rancor, it's set up shoulder to shoulder with G/W.
I'd agree that another bonfire in there would rock most opponents' boards, as long as Thalia doesn't get in your way. The sweeping is necessary since you don't have the trample (or evasion via Lambholt), and since most value creatures in standard are small, you should be able to make a good opening.

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Posted 25 September 2012 at 20:51

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I like your deck. could you take alook at mine again cause you didnt tell me what to improve on, what to leave/add/take out. its name is Elf-Beast deck.

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Posted 06 October 2012 at 04:57

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Heres the deck link
Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=390303

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Posted 06 October 2012 at 21:48

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