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i'm well aware that this deck is beatable, but i still love it. thrummingbird + infectious strike + distortion strike is so nasty this has potential to stack poison counters quick.
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Kitesail is a little expensive... You may wanna try out Distortion Strike... Uunblockable +1+0 for 2 turns. I'd say drop a Corrupted Conscience, a Vault Skyward, all the Kitesails and 2 Corpse Cur. Swap in 4 distortion strike and 4 Livewire Lash. Otherwise, it looks good! A little on the generic side, but still good. You are right about infect being overpowered... Try coming up with different ways of using it. Look at this http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=144112
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i'm more of a load the board with creatures kinda guy, so i'm going to have to agree with you on it being a bit generic. good advice though, definately love the distortion strike in there. flying unblockable infect....eww.
hmmm id go with a wall of frost, or a gaurd gomozoa, theyre both nice for blocking creatures, you can never go wrong with a wall of tanglecord cuz its a 0/6 for 2, other than that, i like this deck its pretty solid
my only thing with this suggestion is that it would take away from the potential 5th turn 10poison counters that this deck has by taking a defensive stance. i have thought about adding mr jellyfish in there though. after i play test it a few times i might have to re-consider that. thanks for the feedback!
Whispersilk Cloak would be fine in here(unblockable+shroud duh!) and Nim Deathmantle (+2/+2, intimidate. I really don't know what you should take out to put them in. Hope it helped and thanks for your comment on my deck! If I think of anything else I'l let you know.
i didn't realize whispersilk was re-released in 11. good call...but not sure what to take out lol
i'm not a big fan of hand of the praetor, just too expensive for a lord. i'd rather pay the 4 mana for phyrexian vatmother.
i stared at that card for like 20minutes. i just can't bring myself to put something in my deck that hurts me also.
well it only really hurts you if they are playing infect as well because you really should be winning within 10 turns of playing this. And you can always sacrifice it to your imp. 5 toughness on an infect creature is just ridiculous.
that is true.... maybe i'll do 2 & 2
And why no Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon, too costy?
yeah. i like him but A: $. B: i know the regenerate is nice, but by the time you can play the hast portion, it's super costly. $/$ flying infect is nice...but a tainted strike + unholy strength on my little bat dude does the same damage. trust me though, i've thought about him a ton
and by $/$ i mean 4/4. typing fail.
I think you need 1 Skithiryx in there anyways just in case you do manage to drag it into late game... Or at least sideboard him. So you can play him against other infect decks. And... I'm going to go ahead and stress Nim Deathmantle over the whispersilk cloak. Not only do they give +2/+2 and intimidate, they can also let you regenerate stuff if you get lucky.
i wish standard was 70 cards for reasons like that.
Well, okay, I know they're ridiculously expensive.. but Inkmoth Nexus x4 would help a great deal. It's a turn 2 1/1 flyer ready for action.. Drowned Catacomb could do some good as well. Past the lands though! I agree with Vatmother over HotP.. but even more so I'd do Phyrexian Crusader. He's just amazing.. I know you're going for flying here, but you have 7 things in this deck to make him unblockable and if you wanted to go the extra mile after that.. switch out Tainted Strike with Virulent Swipe, give Crusader deathtouch and first strike and watch him wipe a board or rape that players poison counters. Even though the Tainted Strike are for the Invisimancers.. I don't think you need them.. In all honesty you could take out the Invisimancers and Unsummons completely and add counters like Mana Leak or Deprive.. they'd take out the need for unblockable and you could just focus on countering any flying creatures they happen to try to cast. It's taking a different perspective on it, but try it out if you'd like. Distortion Strike at that point would be a backup mechanism for if they do happen to get that annoying creature out you need to get by.
imo phyrexianVM is a sweet card, but i just can't pass up +1/+1 on everything with infect i have. crusader isn't in there cuz i'm broke lol. I'm going to end up splitting them up, i keep getting heat for not having it in there lol. if i end up pulling one, he'll find his way in. thanks for the thoughtful feedback though. I truly hate counterspells which is the only reason i don't have mana leak in there. i almost never run them unless it's a draft tourney
INKMOTH NEXUS! cant go wrong in an infect deck.
i agree, nexus is sweet right out of the gate. but, i'm trying to keep this deck under the $40ish mark, and inkmoth is not the way to go about that lol
I like the deck the deck man, everything is 50/50 in mana cost :D My suggestion to take out a swamp and put another plague myr, for more 50/50 ness, plus more infect creatures :D, replace tainted strike with unholy strength, its a better buff, I know you might say that you need that for the invisimancer, but then that is not much consistent. So you might as well buff up your creatures with infect and work from there.
i actually have both in there lol. i'll take that as great minds think alike.
Phyrexian Crusader would be very effective. remember prot from white and red. infect and first strike. so you have a 3/3 blocking you.... it becomes a 1/1 plus if you beef it up. its op. it also can be a good target. yeah unholy strength is a better option imo. tainted strike isnt consistent/ or replace tainted strike with virulent wound for more removal. plus poison counters.
i was thinking bout creating and ifect deck but dont know were to start if anyone has any idea on creatures i should use and if you could comment on my unblockable deck check it out http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=152955
Vampire's bite, Virulent Wound, Virulent Swipe, Livewire lash, I'm just naming off some good, cheap cards =D
this is why i love this website. i don't have that great of knowledge of the currrent cards, and vampire's bite is exactly what i was using tainted strike for. it's a bonus that my nuerok gets infect, but a 3rd turn potential 6/1 flying infect with unholy strength plus vamp bite is dirty. thanks man, i'll definately work those in.
Tainted Strike is pretty much a dead card when you only have 3 cards (your invisimancers) to benefit from gaining infect. Vampire Bite is MUCH more effective for the cost, on a lot of levels. Also, since you seem to like the short-term-pump + infect strategy, consider using Livewire Lash. +2/+0 is ALWAYS a benefit for Infect creatures, plus, whenever you target that creature with a pump spell, the Lash's second effect kicks in. Note that it's the CREATURE who deals the damage under the second effect, meaning that it can deal INFECT damage.
i usually end up doing a turn 3 necropede/ichorclaw myr/plague stinger with a kicked vines of the vastwood and distrortion strike hitting them for 6 unblockable. plus it gets the shroud.
Panic Spellbomb?
I cast Black Sun's Zenith or Day of Judgment or Slagstorm or Pyroclasm on turn 3/4 after you overaggressively try to take the board and then I laugh when everything you have is in the garbage. Any good control deck will absoluetely wreck this weak poison attempt, and any good aggro deck will outrace a 5th turn win easily. 5th turn win is not fast for an aggro deck, especially when you're relying on creature enchantments as part of the win condition. When you're guy dies (which he will) you're out two cards on the board instead of one. Suggestions - You need Livewire Lash. Flying evasion on turn two is often plenty good enough, so you don't need to clutter your deck trying to give your dude a million types evasion (you're trying to get shroud, unblockable, and flying) when it really just isn't necessary.
i agree fully lol. it would be so easy to wipe the floor with this deck. lightning bolt & all my hopes & dreams plummet. Not sure why it hit first page, it was just an experiment, but it seems to be getting some interest. It's impossible to make a perfect deck & still have it be standard (atleast with my card knowledge it is). input is great though, and i have noticed; why flying if it's unblockable? oh well. MTG is about fun, right? this deck is fun if it works. great for casual play, sh*t for a tourny. well aware of that, thx tho.
If you are going to run Infect then you should run Black Green. Check out my deck http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=153000
Infect is so good. Inkmoth Nexus are underpriced right now.
I'd replace the Unholy Strength with Virulent Swipe and/or Demonic Appetite. Make it HURT.
demonic is good, but in a deck like this where i'm painfully relying on my creatures, the sac a creature would do more harm than good. good thought tho.
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only thing i dont like is red will dominate this plus having to tap down to make something a 4/2 to die to a bolt is bad news now you put all your eggs in 1 basket and your gonna be top decking soon might want to reformulate it so it can comeback in late game situations.....i mean the only decks that do that are the green infect decks cus they can pump them up really fast w blue your gonna hafta be rdy to go atleast 5 to 8 turns
I have spent many an hour debating on going UB or GB for my Infect deck. In the end, GB Infect is better just because you get Vines for the Vastwood, Giant Growth, Groundswell, Prey's Vengeance, and Mirrian Metal if you really want to as your one drop boost cards. You also can use Blight Mamba, Putrefax, and Rotwolf, but I personally think the artifact and black Infect cards are much, much better. The creatures you should be running are: - Ichorclaw Myr - Plague Myr - Plague Stinger - Phyrexian Crusader - Phyrexian Vatmother Hand of the Praetors are nice, but they are quick removal targets and cost too much. I ran two Hand's at the last local tourney I went to, and the he was killed either the turn I played him, or during the next turn. You swing with your little Plague Stinger with Distortion Strike and Unholy Strength on it. It dies to Burst Lightning, Lightning Bold, Pyroclasm, Slagstorm, and Arc Trail, which are all in every Vampire, Boros, RDW, Valakut, and Kudotha deck, while a kicked Vines or Giant Growth will keep them alive. The current meta is pure control almost, so you have to assume that you're going to facing it every game. The only good blue card in this deck are the Mana Leaks, while you could be putting in cards like Nature's Claim to deal with Swords of Feast and Famine, Swords of Body and Mind, and one drop kill cards for Wurmcoil's. You also need Duress to remove Planeswalkers or Swords from your opponent's hand, and Go for the Throat to get rid of any scary creature they may throw at you.
planning on it....by building a different deck lol
The fact that it's Green or Black doesn't matter that much. If the guy is gonna Lightning Bolt your Plague Stinger, it doesn't matter if you cast Giant Growth or Distortion Strike, the thing will still die because Lightning will be on the stack. Last in, First out. That's how instants go
I agree with everyone who is saying to ditch Tainted Strike. Virulent Swipe will always be a better card. Also, I would suggest finding a place for Corrupted Conscience. That card wins games like nothing else.
huh. thought i had cc in there. pretty sure i did at one point, mustve taken it out for something. this deck is pretty much a lost cause. thanks for the comments tho
look at my tricolored infect deck
i would suggest adding livewire lashes, vampire's bite, and turn aside instead of mana leak to protect your creatures. take a look at my blue black infect it has a similar idea.