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The plan is to make opponents discard their cards and do life doing so. Then, they loose life from drawing, (Underworld Dreams + Howling Mine) and they lose life from having no cards in their hands(Hollowborn Barghest, Nezumi Shortfang flip, Guul Draz Specter etc.) Win Conditions: Liliana getting all the creatures Oppenents losing life from underworld dreams and Howling Mine Beefy creatures from the opponent not having cards in their hands
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i would help but im not good with discard
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this looks alright no big flaws, but you could also add a couple racks they have the same ability as nezumi shortfangs flip and i think xathrid demon is kind of unneeded in this deck. your just going to screw over you self with creatures
ok. so i should take out xathrid for racs?
one of the things is tho that Xathrid + Creakwood = 3 damage to EACH opponent each turn
should i switch out the xathrids' for 2 nyxathids http://magiccards.info/autocard.php?card=Nyxathid|
I would take Xathrid and Creakwood Leige out because that is an entirely different kind of deck and it would be hard to get and keep both of them in play at the same time. You could replace them with The Rack as suggested or maybe Hymn to Tourach. I don't think Gleancrawler really has a place in this deck either. Maybe replace it with Nyxathid or Oona's Prowler. Hope I helped.
so i gotta take out 2 Xathrids 2 Gleancrawlers and 2 Creakwoods so how does 2 Nyxathids and 4 racks? or 2 nyxathids 2racks 1 guul draz specter and one hypnotic specter?
hmm. u need back up cards, cards that will allow you to "lose" but continue. with this many mobs it would be good to have some artifacts that give u lifelink or deathtoutch. good base but protection decks will run right through you even with the discard effects.
hmm any examples?
also go for demonic tutor, less mana cost. lichs tomb, platinum angel, and eternity vessel are the only cards i would at and only to the side bar.
anyone know what i should swap my xathrids,gleancrawlers,and lieges for? 2 Nyxathids and 4 racks? or 2 nyxathids 2 racks 1 guul draz specter and a hypnotic specter?
whats up my man, i love a good discard deck, but u r trying to combine discard with some black beatdown here. if u want to accomplish either of these things then u have to decide which to go for and stick to that only. for the discard aspect i would most deff reccomend Nyxathid, Hymn to Tourach, Wrench Mind, wall of souls, damnation, silent arbiter, and the rack
the point of a discard deck is to be able to hurt the opponent while robbing him of having a chance to fight back, so dont worry about dealing big damage with Xathrid Demon or Gleancrawler. those cards r great but made for a different type of deck. u need to be able to have the opponent discard at least 3 cards by turn 3 r u will be in bad shape, that y hymn to tourah, wrench mind, and ravenous rats r such an important part of this deck. and above all else hypnotic specter is a deadly force of destruction. i have seen them win entire games by themself when played right.
if i wasnt clear or u want to ask something else or anything just shoot me a comment on one of my recent decks and ill get back to u, good luck and keep it up
2 Racks 2 nyxathids 1 hypnotic specter and 1 guul draz specter sounds good to me
k thanks for ur help
its all good, if u need any more help just ask
Demonic tutors instead of the diabolics. =D
Other than the demonics, it looks pretty steady. Check mine http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=34018
I think splash red add burning inquiry it's a beast 1 drop common