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Wanted to make a different style deck with Vish Kal than the bury creature bring them back theme I saw a lot with this commander. Love the commander art work especially the throne he is sitting on and his ability is not too bad either. I know life gain is not really important/popular in commander, so I made it a win condition. Tried to keep it semi budget I know Avacyn will break the bank....wanted to try a different approach that I think would throw of opponents when they see the commander. Any suggestions are welcome and encouraged!!
Basically gain as much life as possible as quickly as possible. There are 4 win condition combos in here with Test of Endurance, celestial convergence, Felidar and the well known Sanguine + Exquisite blood infinite combo. Added White stalling spells to make it hard to be attacked - Ghostly, prison, arrest, blind obedience, windborne muse etc. Some draw cards and of course some crowd control board wipes. 85% of the creatures have life link and the planes walkers support the life gain theme.Ultimately the strategy is sit back, gain life, fend off attackers, play multiplayer politics against opponents and win condition for me with the most life points.Hope you enjoy this twist.
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This is probably not what you wanted to hear, but as the deck stands now you could probably substitute Oloro (he's slouching in a throne, too) as your commander, never cast him, and still have him contribute more to your win con than Vish Kal just by chilling in the command zone gaining you life. Vish is kinda cool, but he's really build-around, and you're not building around him at all. That isn't to say the deck won't work, but as it stands now you're taking the path of most resistance :)
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hmmmm You are right on the money. Not what I wanted to hear.....Damn loved this idea. Should I transfer most of the cards in this deck over to this new commander? Orrrr Would a Myr deck combed with sphinx's and life gain creatures with the same win conditions work?Thoughts?
I was kinda messing with an Oloro deck that I never made using extort: http://www.mtgvault.com/doctorhydrogen/decks/oloro-ageless-ascetic-edh-2/There's probably a decent deck to be built combining that with all the life-gain alt win conditions
Thanks for the reference. I took some from your deck, some from my old deck, and some cards from the commander sealed product set. Only thing is I am having trouble shaving it down to 100 cards. Can you have a look at the following deck and suggest what to do? I will be adding more specialty lands(Almost everyone on the list you provided) but wanted to see if the rest of the cards make sense in they way I put this one together.Only thing I can see at first glance is that creature cost is high. As always your wisdom is needed and appreciated.http://www.mtgvault.com/baron242/decks/life-everlasting/THANK YOU!!!!!!!
I think you need more ramp if you're playing to win. Sol Ring and Orzhov Signet would be decent starts, and I'd strongly consider Thran Dynamo, Gilded Lotus, Worn Powerstone and Mana Vault. Mana Crypt is great too, especially in a lifegain deck but it's like a $180 dollar card or something. Sitting doing nothing for 5-6 turns loses games so you want to get to your stuff fast.A Demonic Tutor is worth the $15 dollars if you can find one over Diabolic. Those two mana are often times the difference between casting what you just tutored for this turn, and waiting.Cabal Coffers is a monster in most two color decks with black. You can also run Expedition Map to fetch it.Wrath of God is strictly better than Day of Judgement. I'm a huge fan of Austere Command though, and also Merciless Eviction. The flexibility on both is amazing.I like Banishing Light and Oblivion Ring over stuff like Arrest and Pacifism because they can hit any target. They don't work quite as well on commanders as does the other two because someone can just recast their commander out of Oblivion Ring, but more often than not the flexibility is well worth it.Things I'd remove:Deathrender: Nice, fun card, but it doesn't win games.Chanellor of the Dross: Fine card, but for that many mana it needs to impact the game immediately.Serra Avatar: Same as Chancellor of the Dross. If I wanted to spend that much white mana I'd run Avacyn. She breaks everone's heart when she lands. Serra Avatar gets chump blocked five turns in a row without a trample enabler.
Wow all great stuff. I think I misspoke with the comment from this deck page. I made another deck with the life point theme in my deck list named "Life Everlasting" with the commander you suggested. The link for the new Oloro EDH deck I made is below. Sorry for the confusion:http://www.mtgvault.com/baron242/decks/life-everlasting/I think I am going to scrap this deck. Don't want two decks with same theme. Plus I can buy the commander 2013 Oloro set to start me off. I also included Vish Kal in it to make me feel better about canning him lol. Take a look and let me know Doc. Thanks a million again.