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It's a deck with a very aggressive game ending combo. Fathom mage, horizon chimera, and archangel of Thune, all amazing creatures in their own right, are all needed for the combo. Draw a card, gain life, get counters, draw a card.... The combo doesn't kill you because fathom mage says you may draw a card. I put some other cool interactions in the deck(prophet of kruphix and vitu-ghazi guildmage/ centaur healer and archangel). Hope you like it.
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Have you thought about Courser of Kruphix over Centaur Healer?
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Actually that's a little better. It has life gain, a bigger ass, and it ramps you: thanks.
You could try Karametra over Elspeth, since Karametra combos very nicely with Courser.
That's not a bad idea. I'll test that out.
If you ever take this out of standard, Jace's Erasure would be almost all you need.
That combo is hilarious
Isn't it, though?
notice this combo one day when making my own b/g deck. its very strong but at a very high mana rate. you could think about running a simic charm in order to protect your creatures for a turn.
Yeah, It can be a little slow at times. It is surprising to see how fast it can bounce back however. The simic charm isn't a bad ideas, thanks.
Other cool cards that might combo well with this is Gyre Sage, which allows you to tap for as many +1/+1 counters as are on the sage.Also, with the some type of sacrifice mechanic combined with the elixir or immortality would prophet of kruphix allow you to sac creatures in particular sylvan caryatid and then tap them for mana? or do the creatures only have pseudo flash where they can be played anytime, but not tapped?I have similar deck made:http://www.mtgvault.com/dainir/decks/t2-almost-infinite-drawmana/
they have flash but not haste so no they cannot tap as soon as they come out. i think thats what your asking.
Yes, it's exactly what I was asking. I was hoping a little too much then.
So I found a way to get haste to everything, and add a sacrifice mechanic:The following is the result:Korozda Guildmage = sacrificeHammer of Purphoros = hastehttp://www.mtgvault.com/dainir/decks/t2-infinite-combos/
Thanks for the input, guys. It's just something I threw together, it's really great to have inquiry.
8 Courser of Kruphix?
Woops. That's not fair.
Sweet Combo!
Interesting deck, but a think vitu-ghazi wont help a lot since the main combo is the counter + life gain. I think aqueous form would be nice for the unblockable+ scry and maybe one kiora for the extra control + mana rush. Really nice build tho : )
I have to agree. I only see 3 ways u can populate with him and your not going to be using that manna unless u have nothing else to do. If she is there for a 2 drop I would consider fleecemane lion (I think I spelled that wrong) its a 2 drop 3/3 and u can monsterous it for 5 later if u want to make it indestructible. But if it's just there then I would maybe consider a bestow creature like boon saytr. But otherwise I wouldn't change a thing this deck is amazing and I love that u use fathom Mage! I love that card :)
You might be surprised at how many tokens I can make. I've tried fleecemane lion before and he just wasn't good here, not enough synergy. Vitu-ghazi is ridiculous here as more of an engine because I have enough power and life gain to hold off most hoards of creatures. I regularly play out my hand and I needs something to make the deck even more powerful. It's also a mind trick because I untap on their turn with kruphix and then they kill vitu-ghazi; then I slam down an archangel of Thune, the much bigger threat. I'll try kiora, though.
I guess with elixer + vitu + prophet the tokens could be viable as you can just rev for as much as you want then recycle your library. So that will allow you to have oodles of mana. Id agree with giving Kiora a try, but not aqueous form, youre just giving away card advantage then.
played a couple decks like this recently, really great deck but removal is just to strong and messes up this deck even when you have the combo in hand. The most effective build i've seen of this ran some counterspells like syncopate etc... otherwise really great deck, good combo, hope you can get it to work.
I'd suggest Swan Song, it will not be too problematic most of the time and it is a very cheap counter (mana-wise that is).
Swan song is a nice fit, thanks. I've tried to make it so that I don't need to make the combo go off to win. Yeah, creature based decks are no problem: kill spells; supreme verdict; etc hurts, but they need to be loaded and need to read me like a book to know when to play them. This is a very hard deck to play at times.
The current standard metagame is all control and removal, with the exception of red green monsters. Which is why I find the current standard fnm boring as hell, I know what I'm going to play against all night and I can't stand going to time on games I might win. Nor can I stand to play the current meta decks because they always go to time.I mean this deck seems to be a bit more fun than most of the bant I've seen, since it only has elements of control, but mostly all I see all night is sphinx's rev, elspeth's, aetherlings and sometimes brimaz if they're playing r/w/u control.http://www.mtgvault.com/couch312/decks/trolololololololol/ This is the deck I'll be running this friday, I'm not confident in winning, but I might be able to aggro out some control decks.
My FNM meta is very different from yours then. Almost all creature based decks.
I'll trade you. Anytime. I see nothing but blue white control with the rare appearance of red green monsters.I also see Architect of Thought more than any other planeswalker.
Man, that sounds horrible. No interaction = no fun.
Agreed. Also, if you're seeing mostly creatures, Azorious Charm. It's a must.
Yeah, I'm trying many variants of the deck, azorius charm is pretty high up as an enabler and as control.
Lifegain for Archangel trigger or Card draw advantage or creature control. Hard to go wrong with it.
Definitely, thanks for the talk, Couch.
Anytime, sorry for the half rant about meta gaming and such.
This is quality & stability!
MB looks pretty solid (still not sure about the guildmage, but hey IMO every deck gets one flavor card), seems like your SB is still in the refinement stage.My SB suggestions, go for 3 rootborns, 3 azorius charm, 2 dissolve. Can the simic charm and current counterspell roster, I dont see the simic charm being useful against much more than bile blight vs the rootborn. Whereas the rootborn does save from verdict overloaded mortars, etc. Azorius charms speaks for itself. Dissolve because 4 card slots on your SB isnt worth it for effectively 2 counterspells at any time; plus you do not have a mana issue so the 1UU should be easy enough to afford.
Yeah, I know the sideboard is janky.
Cool idea but the Curve is kinda difficult. Prophet and Sylvan Caryatid are good but any plan for anything else? Kiora's Follower doesn't seem too bad in the deck.
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Ascended lawmage is great,very hard to deal with.
You could also try spike feeder.
He is keeping it standard -_-
Is Fathom Mage really helpfull ? I mean with your deck you wont get to draw alot with her :l More Sphinx's Revelation could be cool or other stuff like Ephara or Inspiration ? please correct me if im wrong.
The combo he's working for in this deck is based on Fathom Mage.
but he only play weak creature , he will fast draw 3 or 4 card but after, the only way to stack it great is with Archangel of Thune that WILL be targeted fast. and 3 counter spell in sideboard wouldnt really protect her for to long as my point of view. Archangel of Thune is one of the most powerfull combo card of the block, I think he need an alternate way2. it will begin at turn 4, I found this a bit slow in a 1v1.sorry for my english by the way xD Im I crazy ? xD
To build off of Stam's post. It is true that the angel will be targeted right away, and is a little slow due to its 5 cmc.Maybe run 3 angels and 2-3 of sunbond. This would allow for you to hit the draw your entire deck mechanic as well. It just won't boost all of your cards at once. Also, this would allow you to hit the combo, then hit the angel.Other options for your deck is to add a domri Rade in place of the elspeth. This would be highly dependent upon you getting the sylvan caryatid out, but it will give you some extra card advantage, and the ability to protect all your creatures from removal spells.
The sunbond idea is great.it will just stack as long as he want and make a huge creature really quick with the help of the chimera AND stack with the archangel ^^
I would recommend putting in the Bow of Nylea. It helps with early game presence, gives +1/+1 counters, gives you life, and helps you put cards back on the bottom of your library so you can draw more cards for your combo.
try sunbond an bow of nylea
Nice combo dude