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Here is my dragon deck; mono-red and tough as hell. Suggestions are welcome!
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Add a quicksilver amulet and i really like hoard-smelt dragon to take care of artifacts
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Quicksilver Amulet is a neat idea, but that would alter the deck quite a bit, i.e. make some of the mana ramp cards unnecassary. I'll think about it, thanks for the idea!
This is a nice deck man. If it were me, I'd just replace the lightning greaves with swiftfoot boots. That way you can give your dragons claws of valikut to make for some real nice first striking damage.
The reason Lightning Greaves is in here is because the equip cost is zero. This allows me to attack with a dragon I just played because I can give it haste for free. Swiftfoot Boots is a good card but it costs one mana to equip which slows down an already slow deck, plus there is no advantage to having hexproof over shroud because I don't target my own creatures with anything. I really appreciate the comment though!
Yea. Keep it pure. I understand. I just like heavy hitters... and a dragon with claws on is a real heavy hitter. Geistflame if youre having trouble making the furyborn guy bloodthirsty.
If I was to add something to ensure bloodthirst is active it would probably be Goblin Fireslinger not Geistflame. Geistflame isn't a very good card honestly, the only thing that makes it slightly useful is the flashback. Thanks for the suggestion though.
Yeah, Geistflame is just bad in general. Goblin Fireslinger is great because he stays on the battlefield, and the obvious upgrade to Geistflame is ....dun dun duuuuunnnnnn..................................... .................... FUCKING LIGHTNING BOLT. Geistflame, really?
even cheaper, gutshot? that should do the job, right?
Yep... that could help him get Furyborn out a whole turn earlier, since he's not spending a red to make Bloodthirst happen.
Hi Blakroc, You asked me to look at your deck and comment on it. First off you haven't any bad choices in your cards. But you don't have a sideboard. Here's a possible side board 4 Bad moons 4 Pyroblast 4 Red Elemental Blast 3 Pillage I've never made a dragon deck but I do love to bring out big creatures super fast with thngs like show and tell, tinker, polymorph, defense of the heart, oath of ghouls, entonb/exhume and for red there is sneak attack add sundial of the infinite and you can be bringing out a big creature and keeping it after the turn ends. So maybe experiment and cut the 4 geosurge and add 4 add sneak attack to your deck.
Thanks for the advice realdecks, I'll definitely get a sideboard going. Sneak Attack is a cool idea by itself, and with Sundial it becomes flat-out unfair. I'll play around with it, thanks for the idea.
I think you mean Blood Moon, not Bad Moon. Bad Moon gives black creatures +1/+1. :D Blood Moon is a GREAT card. Sorry manlands!!
I hate dragon tribals...but that's only b/c they beat me 100% of the time. My only suggestion was going to be geosurge, but I see you're on top of that. ;) +1.
Haha, thank you! BTW, anyone have a better name for the deck? "Dragon Tribe" isn't exactly creative.
nicely done looks very strong. =] as far as a name why not erupting akatash?? heres my version of a dragon tribal, might even give a few new ideas. comments r welcomed http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=223301
The problem with the "Fatty" tribes -- Angels, Leviathans, Demons, Archons, Dragons, etc. is that they have little to no lower costing representatives. I really wish that WotC did eventually make a few lower cost versions of these guys. Anyways, this looks pretty nice given that it's a mono-R take on a Dragon tribe. I might suggest trying a Jund version. Some truly great dragons exist in those colors and so does more available ramping options...it might be worth taking a look =]
Cue changelings. A Taurean Mauler followed by a Crucible of Fire can be dangerous. Jund Dragons is great, but something completely different from MRDs. I used to run my dragon deck as R/G (mostly for Dragon Broodmother, who is sexy as hell in multiplayer), but it is much more reliable and way faster as mono-red.
Thanks man! :D I partly agree with you that there should be some lower-mana options, but I think the reason behind Leviathans, Dragons, Angels, etc. being high-cost is because they are meant to be "boss" creatures. A small, 3 mana Leviathan creature would leave me a bit disappointed quite honestly. Cheap creatures are the job of Goblins, Soldiers, Elves, and other weenie tribes. That divide is what makes each deck more interesting in my opinion. If every tribe had a good creature from 1-7 mana, what fun would making a tribal deck be?
Dragonspeaker shaman and Dragonmaster outcast are the two thoughts I have for this deck, but it looks pretty good to me without them. Also, MAYBE aether vial, but once again, that's a huge maybe. The mana accel should be enough to drop the dragons quicker than the vial could.
Thanks! Shaman and Outcast are both in there by the way, you must have missed them. As for Aether Vial, the mana ramp does just fine getting dragons out, it isn't needed. Plus, there isn't anything I want to take out, so even if Vial would work I probably couldn't fit it in.
Try adding Bogardan Hellkite. That dude's too good.
Good idea, I'll try it out. Also, I just saw the card Braid of Fire. Does that spew out mana or am I reading it wrong? Would it be a viable replacement for say, Ruby Medallion?
From what I understand, the mana Braid of Fire provides empties after your upkeep, so it would actually be useless. This is based off changes made to the mana pool around the time M10 was released. However, you could use that mana for Dragon Tyrant's upkeep costs. I could be wrong though, so double check. Nice dragon deck, too. I usually see jund or R/B decks. Check mine out and comment if you get the chance.
Too bad. Switched them out for Mana Flare, should work pretty well as a replacement.
add green, four elvish pipers, and fires of yavimaya. you can take out the lightning greaves this way to make room for fires. just a suggestion.
I'm going to keep this deck mono red. If I ever get around to it I'll build another the is R/G, possibly using those cards. Thanks for the suggestions though! =D
I've always loved Dragon tribal due to its inherent insanity once it builds up enough steam. I'd suggest some colorless/non-damage removal to bypass protection and to get rid of artifacts, though. To that end, there's a perfect addition to this deck: Steel Hellkite. Colorless, a nice 5/5 body, and a great non-targeted destroy effect. Also, Warstorm Surge. Triggering that with Furyborn Hellkite is just insane.
And a little additional name recommendation: Fire and Blood. A Game of Thrones reference.
I might suggest kilnsmouth and definitely would suggest hoard-smelter for artifact hate. great deck tho i love dragon tribes.
I could suggest rite of flame? Really good mana ramp for mono red dragons ( i would know because i run it in my build of this deck) its 1 mountain for 2+ all other rites of flame in the gy. That could be a potential 1 mana cost for 6 mana... Pretty good IMO
My favorite little combo that I use in my dragon deck is kilnmouth + thorn bite staff. Its very good for field control and have 2 kilnmouths going like that and it can be a game winner =)
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i dont know how well tyrant works for you but it looks like it is too mana intensive. i'd take it out for more steel hellkite and balefire dragons or some burn (lightning bolt?)
You could adjust your curve a bit. Seems that your deck does not have much to do the first 2-3 turns. Perhaps go 4x on the smaller dragons.
Cue mana ramp. Seething Song and Geosurge allow bigger dragons to be played much earlier than normal, so the deck isn't as slow as it appears.
Both are turn 3+ spells. Would be nice to have something to do in turn 1 and 2. Almost all of the dragons can win the game on their own so the deck would not lose a lot of power if you cut a few for a smaller dragon.
Kargan Dragonlord?
considered lightning bolt or shock for bloodthirst?
nice deck! i wud hate to play against this lol no changes this deck is amazing :)
Valakut, the molten pinnacle is a sweet addition that will add to the deck and take away from nothing. Much better then scorched ruins in my opinion. Also instead of the spells for mana acceleration use like either urza's incubator's or quicksilver amulet. they way better and better for more then one use. As for your choice of dragons Bogarden Hellkite's for a burn and element of surprise, knollspine dragon for getting your hand full all the time, scourge of kher Ridges for weenie destruction, and Moltensteel dragon to sac life and get that last lil bit life off them and win. Your also way to open early game and need something that not only gives you defense early game but massive threats mid-late game such as Dragonmaster Outcast. And it fits the theme very well for the deck. keep in mind the games not just about having the last laugh late game but also being a pain in the ass early game as well. G'luck and hope this helps.
Oh and incase you were wondering which dragons you currently have on your build that might be expendable if you choose to do the changes well dragon tyrant for one...horrible dragon to run unless your playing a deck with the enchantment sneak attack. then hes a god. th changes for getting dragons down quicker will leave lots of room once and if you drop mana flares, seething song's and geosurges. Seething song and geosurge is a one time use and really should only be used for combo decks and not a deck that will be sitting around and wailing back and forth. And mana flare benefits your opponent..you dont want to give them an upperhand at any point in the game from one of your own cards and want to avoid this route at all cost.
Actually, I think geosurge is better, cause if you play one land a turn, thats a 6 cost dragon turn 4. Quicksilver amulet is turn 5
I can get a Balefire out turn three with Seething Song and Geosurge. Turn three Song, then Geosurge for 8 total mana, into a Balefire Dragon. I can also get a turn 4 Tyrant with a turn 3 Mana Flare, turn 4 Song (which makes 6 total mana, 3 used to pay for Seething Song) and a Geosurge for 11 total mana, into a Dragon Tyrant.
And if you get some dragon speaker shamans, you can easily cast 2 or 3 dragons a turn. (using seething song and geosurge.
have you considered running caged suns over mana flare? it adds +1/+1 to the color of your choice and doubles only your mana. If you surge or song to play it just as early as a flair but only benefits you. Just an option, over all I really like where this concept. everything benefits from having more dragons, so keep up the good work.
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I used to build dragon decks all the time and one of my last iterations went like this: with a land drop every turn plus Iron Myr you should have 4 mana on your 3rd turn use 3 for seething song you have 6 mana, use all 6 to cast 2 Desperate Rituals spliced onto arcane then recast the Desperate Ritual that returns to your hand leaving you with 9 mana to cast Dragon Storm which storms for 3 netting you 4 dragons but if you don't use Dragon Storm this combo works great for hard casting a big dragon that can hold off opponents until more mana shows up to cast more dragons but really only functions as a way to ignite the "storm" mechanic!
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