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counts as two land falls. So if one I have a crab out it is mill 6 instead of 3. so more crab the better

yea true but i have been playing it and i milled some one turn 4 earlier

that could work as well

also why not glimmerpost and the infinite life gain combo with leonin relic-warder and Phyrexian metamorph

you are going to be more mana screwed than you care for with only running 18 lands

thanks man and it defiantly catches people off guard at fnm

i know what you are talking about also i have a buddy that showed me this deck And I wanted to make it post rotation, It gets there i have been 2-0 people left and right

Yea thats what I was thinking. But if I dont have what I want in hand I do a aggressive mulligan until i do.

the only thing with smoke stack is it triggers every turn. And in order for you not to have to sacrifice anything you would have to use sundial of the infinite as soon as your turn begins. I like the thought but it hurts you as well.

is that a question or a suggestion.

And No cause If I dont draw him from opening hand he could be a dead card with his high mana cost. And this deck is made to win quick not drag out till turn 7.

looks good.

Only advice i can give is make sure you practice the timing. I find myself some times looking to exile something and forget to have my attack phase.

Good ideas i just dont know If I am up for the changes

lol thanks

thanks i went 4-1 on fnm only lost to tempered steel. But it was really close and lost the third game by 4 life it was close. And I had a horriable missplay should have used tezz's gambit in order to proliferate. instead I casted Bloodlord of vassgoth

lol was it called bloodthirsty obliterator? Cause if it was its mine. I post my deck on both sites to get better advice

fast for a black deck

Why no bloodlord of vassgoth. you have a chance to have every Vampire that comes after him to get 3 +1/+1 counters on them. I mean seriously Vampire nighthawk coming out as 5/6 is BAMF!

Yea thats the thing that is pretty awesome about this deck. It gets there quick and most people cant handle it that quickly considering its can be turn 3 maybe 4 win.

Yea I made venser's sundial that was featured on the front page a week ago.

You need Venser in order to use Oblivion Ring the way you are wanting. Also the smokestack combo doesnt work how you think. You only get to put a counter on it once per turn. And I like the sneaking of 12/12 thats a one cost. But you wont be able to pull it off until turn 3