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**Every good card has flavor text, so why not a deck?**The elemental flames cheered as their brethren returned from the Rakdo's guild gate. Their finest warriors, coming home from a battle against true evil itself. However, the army's souls did not burn bright with pride. Black smoke and ash filled as dark souls slaughtered the soul felt flames. Hideous laughter echoed throughout the dark past of fire.
This deck has something that elementals do better than anything else in the game:Early game mana ramp. On average you should have four mana by turn two or three mana by turn one, which is more than enough to play most creatures in the deck, considering the most expensive is Ashenmoor liege.The deck builds off itself and beats down on any opponent. I've always loved evil decks, and elementals...I think ive found the perfect combination ;D ^-^IMPORTANT:Before considering additions to the deck, realise that the power and beauty of the deck is the constant red/black mana options with every card. This fuels the deck and give's it most of its power. **SIDE BOARD**If the opponent is running a life gain deck, run stigma lasher. If they are running a very instant or one card wonder heavy deck, run dash hopes. If they have planeswalkers or just one annoying ass creature, run dreadbore :DGray merchant for multiplayer.
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**Btw, any hints or advice you want to give on the deck are very appreciated**
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I love the elementals, my first and favorite deck I made was built off of elemental and burn cards. I would recommend maybe smokebraider, it taps for 2 mana for elemental cards so it furthers mana ramp.
whoa man this deck is awesome. my favorite card has to be din of the fireherd....thats boss.
Thanks man!I really love that card.. this deck rarely ever needs to get to endgame, but pump out creatures, and if your lucky youll get a couple of darkrituals and manaforges, that card is an instant endgame :Dany advice??
well madcap skills is pretty boss. especially if you get it turn 2 after you played a dark ritual to get out gouger or avatar of discord. lightning talons is awesome too. side deck a rakdos, the demon guy. or a master of cruelties.
also, not to sure about avatar of discord. I dont really have anything that i'd want discarded, so if you have any replacements I'd be thankful :p
powerfist of death! (I got nothin besides that to say)
lol do u joke when you say that or are you serious saying thats a card?? x)
wait... Thats an actual card? I meant powerfist cuz this was an awesome deck... Theres a powerfist card? Must be from one of the un sets.
nope... There isnt unfortunately. Just checked. Woulda been really cool though lol
http://www.mtgvault.com/simicmartin35/decks/naya-midrange/
Nice Deck! I would go for Deviant Glee instead of Riot Spikes though.
riot spikes is there for its black/red cost (:
Why not have Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx in your deck so you can cast Din of the Fireherd faster?
This is an absolutely amazing deck!! the only thing that I can even think of to alter this deck would probably to switch Fists of the Demigod into the sideboard and put Dreadbore into the main deck for some cheap removal
fists of the demigod has always been a winner for me, but i do agree that i wish i had some space for dread bore :/thx man! :D
Terminate > Dreadbore for Mainboard, in my own opinion. If your opponents Planeswalkers get out of control first game, then turn it into Dreadbore.
I like it. Is it build for modern?
Not at all haha, i play at table but I've got about fifteen different buddies and we just play tournaments and your deck is fine as long as you have no banned cards (:but, if i were to play, this deck would for sure be vintage xPmind doin me a huge favor and hitting like so i can give this deck some attention/critiques?? ^-^
I did and if you can do same for mine I'd appreciate it.
I gotchou (:
All these new formats are so confusing. Back in my day we had I think one but that was back when 4th edition was the newest thing and then i quit playing.
bahaha, im farely new, played a little bit a few years ago in highschool then recently got back into it wiith my dorm and I love making decks haha XDand format or no format, magic is magic, and if youve got a good deck, youve got a competition (:
Innistrad just released when I started. Shows how new I am :/
bahaha, im a newb too, its all good! :D
I just started back again a week or two before Theros released. I played a couple games at my wife's friend's house and now I'm obsessed again.
You asked my for some input: culling the weak maybe instead of infernal plunge if you can get them 4 red/black lands like Blood Crypt or Badlands (if your can afford or can poxy), 4 terminate in sideboard, personally I also like graveyard hate in side board like relic of progenitus
lol, i think enchantment creatures are ridiculous tho -.-
and at deck protector:I have two tormods crypt i sideboard for every deck lol, not to mention I tried avoiding the double lands for speed reasons with the deck considerings its power iss in its hybrid mana apporach :D
Oh wow, i got top of the page! :Dthx whoever liked/commented, this deck has improved alot (:
Kind of going with what DeckProtector said you should probably put in something like Rakdos Carnarium since it adds 2 mana every time you tap it
the mana would be too slow.. My mana ramp comes from creatures and instants (:
I like how many low drops you have in this deck. If I were to fight this, I would definitely have to bring out an aggro or fast mover myself in order to keep up. My only recommendation for the deck would be the shock lands or maybe other dual lands. I know you have like all but two of your cards in the deck black or red mana cost, but if you're really hurting for a black then the dual land could help you. You never know. Some other multicoloured spells could also help out the deck, especially Torrent of Souls. Get a creature back and do a bit of damage at the same time. Should be some good clean fun.I know you're going for quick and elementals, but Defiler of Souls could be a lot of fun in this deck. He could limit the use of creatures your opponents have or pull out.My last suggestion would be Kulrath Knight and Everlasting Torment. Those two in unison should spell out game for you.But in the end, it is your deck. Do as you please.
I was trying to avoid the whither aspect this deck could offer, but defiler of souls is definitly something i was considering (:
Totally forgot you're basically using a Tribal Elemental deck. You could throw in Door of Destinies if you truly wanted to.
ehh, its a little too slow in my opinion, but maybe (:
I like it, not really good at aggro decks myself but maybe some of those spells in the new theros set that does both damage and scry. It would make the flow of the deck extremely smooth
I like this.......a lot. Its constant badassery and I love Defiler of Souls.
thx man! :D
wow this deck exploded with popularity in one night...
haha, i left it last night at about ten likes and now it has thirty *_*
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from what I see, this deck needs a little work. your land base needs to be about 21 to ensure that you have the 3 or 4 you need turn 4 or 5 to pump out your win conditions and let them swing. you currently have 6 ramp spells, but they wont be very reliable over time and are dead draws after the early game. 6 dead draws is actually a pretty bad situation. on top of that, infernal plunge makes you sac a creature, so its use early game is further limited, making it a possible dead draw early game as well. you are better off running 21 lands and 4 dark rituals to pound out the win condition early. you are mainboarding no removal, which is not a good thing considering the colors you are running. lightning bolt and terminate would help you tremendously. I agree with siding 4 dreadbores to deal with planeswalkers. this deck relies on mid ranged to small creatures to swarm quickly, and to make sure that happens, you need removal to deal with opponents creatures. I would run 4 lightning bolts and 4 terminates mainboard. din of the fireherd is a bad choice for a late game win condition. even with the ramp spells, its just a brick sitting in your hand until you draw what you need. even with 21 lands and a ramp spell or two, I doubt you will be able to play it until turn 10-15, by which time the opponent should be able to deal with it. your creature choices need a little work as well. avatar of discord is an absolute drain on this deck. even if you get it out early with a ramp spell, even turn 1, you have to nuke your hand to do it, so if opponent has any answer, you will lose. emberstrike duo is a weak choice. its benefit isn't anywhere near its weakness. best case, its a 2/2 with first strike for 2 mana. same thing for managorge cinder. not really any benefit besides the split cost. I would check out the 1 drop 2/2 options to speed this deck up tremendously.
Agreed.. It's a cool deck, but with a little more work it could be awesome...Liked your tips.. Can you do me the favor of comment my deck as well?It has a simillar idea of this one, but ist's Red/White..If you have the time:http://www.mtgvault.com/jonybgood/decks/sunlight-2/
mana forge cinder is meant for mana ramp because the second you use her ability you get three mana which is the magic number for most cards. Everytime ive play tested this deck, din has been an efficient turn 5-6 game ender, and this deck shouldnt take any longer than that to finish the opponent off. Although i do agree about avatar of discord, thus why i removed him, and i agree with ember strike, but ember strike is so fun I could never bring myself to take him out ^_^he's like that little kid on the football team that you know isnt as good as another, but you keep him on there because you hope one day he will be :D
not to mention hes sick wiht ashenmoor liegge and fists of the demigod
manaforge cinder doesn't ramp mana. you only get a red or a black, and you have to pay 1 colorless. so all it does is change the color of mana you have.
yeah, i read that ability as for one mana he gives you two XDi got rid of him entirely for some kill (:
this deck looks awesome.. this one could be fun to play against any of my friends decks..
show me your friend, and he shall burn ;D
Hellhole Flailer/Madcap Skills is a really nice rakdos aggro combo. Also Legion Loyalists and Blood Crypts.
blood cryptss are a little out of my budget, and mad cap skills im considering but still not sure about..
madcap skills works great with hellhole flailer. First you can unleash the flailer and attach madcap skills to it and swing for 7. then next turn swing again for 7 and sac for 7 direct. If all of that lands, its lethal in two turns.
I love this deck!
thanks man! :DI'm postin a new deck thats even quicker and more aggresive than this one in a few minutes >:D
Awwwww shiiiiieeeeettttt!!I HAVE to see THAT one!
http://www.mtgvault.com/greenee/decks/definition-of-pure-burn/there ya go, like and comment some advice?? (:
hey guys, i have another aggro deck that is leagues faster than this one, so check it out if you want?? likes and coments are sweet of ya ;Dhttp://www.mtgvault.com/greenee/decks/definition-of-pure-burn/
I dig it. Alls i would say is I would work those dreadbores and or dash hopes in there permanently. Replace the mana forge cinders maybe. You don't need filtering when 90% of your spells are hybrid colors. And removal and counters are always helpful. Either way, nice deck. Looks like a lot of fun!
**recent deck changes**-4 mana forge cinders+4 Terminate for more creature control
Ah, I would just use the dreadbores you had in sideboard. Why not have the option of targeting a planeswalker? But terminates are more nostalgic I guess. :)And Dash Hopes is such a brutal card. I would totally work 2 in.
lol i might have not bought the dreadbores yet... :3
this is cool. :)
thanks! :D
I like it thanks for commenting on my angel's deck by the way
my pleasure man (:
Also I could really use a like or two on any of my other decks and any advice I don't get much that often
my pleasure man (:I usually never get any likes but my last two decks have gotten top of the page and like over twenty likes! ^_^
**RECENT DECK CHANGES**-4 riot spikes+4 unholy strength :Driot spikes is worse in every way and unholy strength fills every position riot spikes wouldve (:
Nice deck , how is it ? Check this one out if you have a moment http://www.mtgvault.com/dragon77/decks/defenders-way-of-milling/
Good GAWD! Really scary deck man. Nothing beats the good old vintage days.
thx man, and I couldnt agree more ;)
I'll vouch for that!
Nice deck man, I would say Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx would help you out a lot if anything.
its so expensive tho D:
You should try spike jester instead of rakdos shread freak. The jester is a 3/1 haste and the freak is only a 2/1 haster
but shread freak can be of any mana and with certain abilities of other creatures him being both 2b and 2r worth of devotion can really end the game (:
I really like this deck and made a similar one myself. However I just found out grey merchant doesn't work very well in this deck. Read the oracle text on gatherer.com. It says hybrid mana doesn't count towards its ability. Hybrid mana is dual color ie black and red. So you might want to take him out of side board. I reluctantly took him out of mine. (he would have been awesome in my multiplayer games :(
haha i know that! (: he's still amazing because alot of these creatures will still have the devotoin to a single color, just not both :D
How about Rakdos, Lord of Riots ? Cheap and powerful.
im not sure this deck eneds any more mana ramp tbh, and this deck doesnt do too much early cheap burn for it to be an effective addition(:
But your attacking every turn and Lord of riots doesn't say how the life has to be lost remember all decreases in life is life lost so rakdos would still be a valuable addition in that aspect he's not just another ender but one hell of a blocker when you play him. Burning has nothing to do with playing him especially in a build like this. and if you have 4 mana turn three like i believe i saw above that's a 6/6 Flying trample on turn three hitting play likely killing on three.
deathgodkira know's what's up ! ;)It's a cheap high damage creature that synergies well with burn yes, but isn't only meant for burn. He would suit very well in the deck for the exact reason that deathgodkira said. I ran him in my Grixis beatdown and when he came out on turn 3 or 4 it was good game.
Its actually an "improved" bloodthirst in the wording. As bloodthirst was strict damage rakdos is life lost and any source that reducea life works making it an amazing four caster!