KaiserWyvern

You know im not gonna lie... I thought summer bloom was basic lands. (My Stupidity aside) nah I try to stay away from banned stuff, stick to the spirit of the format and all that :)

I thought it was summer bloom that got banned from that happy friendship?

Yeah it does take off quickly when it gets going, problem is getting there. Which as you say, in a multiplayer game when you have the time to rev up is fine but one on one is tricky... Amulets of vigor or replacing half of the mana base with non gate cards would be one solution... a very expensive one

Sounds good, agreed 2/3 depending on how it draws in testing, getting another whip after the first is a bit of a dead draw...

Im assuming you use it to whip stasis back to your hand at the end of their turn so you get to untap, then you play it again at the end of your turn so they dont get to untap.

Like the deck incidentally my own efforts with Ula's has often left a lot to be desired :)

Oooh like the whip idea, the life link is useful to stabilize after the slow start plus who doesn't like bringing back a mogis fanatic for a 2nd swing :)

There's a monkey with the minotaurs! See how he works land plus him plus ritual = turn one minotaur, problem is if it then takes a bolt or other removal then your 3 cards down. Have you thought about something like a gnarled scarhide instead he is a one drop that can be bestowed later on and is free with a ragemonger?

Problem with cows are they are frustratingly slow...

Replace 4 lands with Dragon mantle it replaces itself and you have a few to many lands for a mana curve that tops out at 4, especially with the ramp in there, I'd consider going down two more for a couple of cheap burns as well...

Essentially unless the quest was in my opening hand the scry method to get it in there asap was too slow, and even if it was the plan of throwing the spent scry birds as chump blockers didn't hold for long enough, so when it was Kraken time I was too low on health, I'll deffinately try putting in some proliferate and remove a few krakens... Was just supprised on paper I thought there would be a few wins when it all worked :)

Nope still confused :) Essentially (in your opinion) this deck is a helicopter made of bread... And you have just spent time commenting on white or granary rather than just saying 'This thing is not going to get off the ground you know' from the start...

Im curious why you spent quite so long commentating on a deck that has nothing going for it? about 90% of my decks (with the exception of the pauper ones that are demonstrably pretty ok) are that :) and the world has stayed quiet, what drew you hear Boots? Not being snarky or anything its been fun commenting im just genuinely curious :)

*points* yup what he said! honest :)

May his sauces bring you fortune... hmm will have to look into working in an extra colour... it always spikes the cost of lands :D

Bootsncatsn : didn't expect you to say that card, could you expand? im only seeing the benefit on the mines and sphinx?

Wickeddarkman : Yeah the flying plate of Carbonara is nasty although there arnt many decks that I know of that don't call it a day when his noodly ass hits the table...

I guess general weaknesses have to be accepted in a mono deck...

Nothing :) that's the fun part who runs out first! My denial or your library? But I'm drawing lots too and 14 cards are creature control, another 4 will at least hickup you and either lose you something or force you to have less on board to pay it's cost, with the game running long all your creatures will end up in a 7 card hand with you vomiting them all out onto the table. What happens when a puzzle box hits after a bounce and your cream filtered over several turns ends up on the bottom of your library? Will the 7 you draw be suitable or will I suddenly get a breather to stick out two dictates or mines and ramp the mill up further?

What your describing is the worst spot for this deck, lots of cheap creatures I have to constantly bounce tap etc, I would certainly be holding my breath on each draw step.

I'm certainly thinking I need to consider some method of killing when it comes to the little guys, blue is short of murdering sweep attacks, so it would have to be a creature... Cheap and possibly sea life...

If we are playing the optimal game im looking at 1:Serum, 2:Mine, 3:Sphinx, 4:Wave / Mine? / Kruphix? even if your only losing 4 a turn its just become a long game... Even if it worked out like above, im patient, your creatures assuming they don't have haste, will have to take another wave, sleep, evacuate, Aether and ill wait it out till i can do both sphinx and protect myself, there's enough cards flowing to restock.

I mean this is the point where im thinking of sideboard cards to deal with weenie decks, as my opponent what would you not like to see come in assuming I run dry of control and you swarm me?

Scream "Get to tha Choppa!!!" and play evacuation... or wait for them to swing in and AEtherise them... Or Whelm them assuming you don't like fish...

Turn 5 the deck is settling in to mill you and control the board you needed to have them dudes out sooner.

Im enjoying this :) no one ever asks me anything on my decks :) how many questions before I earn a like? :D

Gird my loins, stick my chin out and take that 1/1 punch until turn 4 when he and his buddies go away :)

Thanks, hadn't thought of that and hes cheap, ill have a play around and see what he adds :)

Cloudcrest Lake no a in it:)