Transdermal Celebration

Am I the only one who noticed a ghost posted in this deck?

Read some of the stuff on the blog, it's pretty good stuff. You did a great job with your short snippet on Extraction =P

haha well thank you sure. i tryed my best to do the deck type justice. im still learning about it and actually have most of the first extraction deck i designed on here, with help from u and many others, in person. havent tested it out yet though.

I have to agree, it is a very well written blog. You are correct about timing when it comes to playing Horobi. I often put him out when I can get at least one large board wipe out of it, but usually I end up getting far more than just one.

thx for checkin out the blog Quasimofo.

yah that was a problem when seeing him hit the board in my group. another problem was no one really liked letting him live long enough to do much hahahaha

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That is why I have cards here and there to give my creatures indestructibility, and, incidentally, why I also use so many wither-like effects. Opponents can counter my constant destroy triggers with indestructible creatures, but even indestructible creatures are taken down by -1/-1 counters. As well, I think I could do well with adding Karn into the deck somewhere. His ability to turn artifacts into creatures could come in useful.

hmm good points good sir.

i would agree karn would be a good add here. im not sure what u can take out to make room for it, but it would be a good add to me.

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I say get rid of virulent swipe. I get why it's in here, but karn could be way more devistating.

Yeah, that should work. Thanks.

There is no such thing as a deck with too much "not nice".

Well, yes.

A land should not cost 400 odd dollars, I don't care how good it is. It's a bleeding land!

Sweet Mary mother of God...

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I think this is how I will feel after the first time I get Touch'd (of Darkness)

Indeed, it's quite the double-edged sword.

But then you commander is so easy to kill don't you need more Protection for your creatures to be a control deck!

I feel you might be missing the point...

Well what is it?

A lot of people upon first seeing Horobi only see the ability as a liability, a risk. The truth is, you have to consider that most spells my opponents would use to target Horobi (to kill it with its own ability) would have done the same thing anyway. Removal is removal. This deck has many means of keeping Horobi and my other creatures around, and many more to abuse his ability to my benefit.

The point, I suppose, is a double-edged sword is still a sword.

Of course I did.

I can tell you first hand Trailblazer is a nightmare. It makes all zombies into something better than Royal Assassin. Royal Assassin with "haste" that can hit anything. With Trailblazer out Arty doesn't even block, he just taps ._.

And yeah, it's not even a feeling of anger from getting Touch'd...It's just confusion, shock, and sadness.

True, and they're not even restricted to waiting for the attack. It's a truly amazing card for this deck.

I think shock and dejection would be my reaction.

The shock is universal. You never see it coming. And by "it" I mean losing your entire board state to a one mana instant...

Especially seeing as the only limit to the number is that it must be greater than one... I think playing with Arty must entail a great deal of importance being placed on creatures with Shroud, or Hexproof.

Shroud. Glaring Spotlight negates Hexproof. But jokes aside we've all beaten this deck, it's just very hard and takes a very messed up mindset. Basically you have to accept that things will die *constantly*.

The real problem is that Horobi is ironically very hard to get rid of, at least for any length of time. As Arty said, most of the time what people use to get rid of Horobi would have worked anyway, so he's not as frail as one might think. This deck can produce so much mana alongside resource denial that Horobi will just come back in short order anyway. So then you think, "Ok, well I'll just tuck Horobi"...Until you realize it's literally impossible to tuck Horobi.

It's not unbeatable, but it certainly falls under that category of "that deck".

Well I must say I am quite pleased you like the deck Jens. While Trailblazer has been quite the boon, I think my favorite has to be Nefashu. A man could stare at that artwork for hours and still wonder just what exactly IS that bloody thing? That right there is what I look for in a zombie.

@Sure;Heheh, fair point. And yeah, I could tell it would become a battle of attrition, which is one where I say you need to go Black, otherwise it's not coming back.
I must point out that I think it's especially funny that one couldn't even equip Lightning Greaves to stop Horobi, as the act of equipping them would kill the creature XD

That's quite true for the most part, but Blue gets a lot of treacherous kills when Horobi is in play. In fact I would say that they would be the easiest way to put Horobi to tucking point. Though, as you said, mono-Black makes some serious mana, which leaves it as a virtual impossibility(I won't say it's literally, there's a chance however slim).

As well it should.


@Arty; How could I not? It was quite well thought out, and vicious to the core. It's the EDH equivalent of Pox decks in my eyes, something that impacts all, yet still impacts the user less by design. It's that cruel uncaring beauty that makes it go from sadomasochism, to simple sadism.
I feel as though I should stop gushing about how, and why, I love griefer decks.
The art is pretty interesting, and I am at a loss on what to say when about it. It's like a Langolier had a baby with some sort of Ooze.

For me it's actually been Black/Green (though that does include black haha). My Jarod EDH has always been really freakin good against it. Hell, my Jarod deck LIKES when things die and fill the 'yard. My Athreos deck also does well, but not as well as you might think. Then, of course, my Ink-Treader EDH just makes things...Crazy.

I've seen it a few times where someone rushes out their general and puts Greaves on BEFORE Horobi comes out, but yeah, most of the time that card is rendered useless. In fact this deck walks all over voltrons.

That is true, bounce becomes kill, and that is pretty powerful. Unfortunately Arty's the only one in our group with a truly dedicated bounce EDH. I will say that a guy in our group has a Memnarch EDH and it wrecks house when Horobi is around (It actually wrecks house in most scenarios, but being able to choose what to destroy followed by what to steal is kinda silly).

The deck that actually did the very best against this was our buddy Cody's Eight-and-a-half Tails. Even though it is a voltron, it can target Horobi so fast and so often that it would push him into a "nope"/"tucked" stage. Of course, Cody gave that deck to Arty, so FML.

Your Jarod deck, and decks like it, are the reason I have included Yixlid Jailer and Bojuka Bog.

My favorite animal is the fox, so of course he gave it to me. http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/311/4/9/meme___deal_with_it__by_laurenthebumblebee-d6td3wf.jpg

@Sure; Honestly I think from me it would be either Zedruu, or that second Marchesa that would do the best. Zedruu has all of the things that would become horrendous to see as a Horobi player almost, and my Marchesa has not only recursion, but a card I quite think would fit this deck; Unspeakable Symbol.
Atheros I can see as doing well, but I can easily see why Jarod would do better. It's interesting to say the least.

That's a possibility, but given the likelihood of that happening outside of certain cheap generals, or Karn, I wouldn't rely on that. Yeah, I can see how it would, Zur would especially be in a bit of a predicament.

Not even just bounce, possession, tap, -X/0s, etc. Memnarch is pretty hilarious though, I hadn't even thought of that.

That's actually awesome, I wouldn't have thought of Eight-and-a-half Tails as an out. That's absolutely brilliant!

@Arty; And that's why I would favor Zedruu the horrible over my Marchesa. Less reliant on graveyard shenanigans, and more targeting!

I super love foxes, I bought a silly pink one during my competition trip. It's adorable, and I regret nothing.

Of course it's adorable, it's a fox. What is there to regret?

Well there were some odd looks for instance. I bought one of these;
http://vesperwolfy87.deviantart.com/art/Wild-Republic-Sweet-And-Sassy-Pink-Fox-292378743