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Black Legacy Deck
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This deck is way too overburdened with having to have hexmage and depths... Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth would be better than Peat Bog, it'll alow you to tap depths for mana and drop hexmage on turn two and activate the depths.
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Any ideas for a side board for this thing
Well before I suggest stuff for you sideboard, the maindeck still needs tweeks to work properly. Peat bog enters the battlefield tapped... drop it. It's bad. Unless on turn 1 you cast dark ritual into a rhystic tutor... most people i know will pay the 2 to keep it from tutoring, so in this case keep two and add 1 Vampiric Tutor and 1 Demonic Tutor. Nighthaze is bad too... with only Vampire Hexmage and Marit Lage (hopefully) you have VERY FEW creatures to target Nighthaze with; which leaves you having to target an opponents creature, and you don't wanna give them free damage. I'd go with Sign in Blood for card drawing. Let's face it... four tutors is good, but 4 Beseech the Queen is overkill, drop them and add four Dark Confidant's (Bob) because everything in your deck is very low casting cost and instead of Spellskite, add 4 Death's Shadow for the off-chance that that the stop your early advances and you hurt yourself a bit too much. Definitely sideboard the Spellskite for added protection though and try them out over Death's Shadow and what-not... trial and error works best. If you can, i'd get your hands on 4 Watery Grave'ss or if you're really lucky, get 4 Underground Sea and replace Peat Bog with those so you can avoid hurting yourself with Mental Misstep and Spellskite if at all possible.
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Vampires tutor and demonic are both band from legacy, that is why I am using the other two, I will look into the other cards that you mentioned. The main reason I like peat bog is that I can have that, dark depths, and a hexmage and still get the 20/20 on turn two. As for the nighthaze, I was trying to guarantee that the marit lage will be unblockable. I am just mainly explaining my choices, I will consider what u recommended.
Sorry, I meant to post this under your thing, whoops. Dark Confident is great, but I can't afford them at $34 a pop. Maybe Dark Tutelage but that would cost 1 extra mana. Death Shadow is great and they are not too expensive. I personally also want 4 thoughtsieze for this deck but they are out of my price range also. I was going to use 4 inqusitions of (starts with a k) as a cheap mans thoughsieze. I am still playing around with this so anything else that you can suggest drumhead would be much appreciated. You did hit the nail on the head with Urborg, tomb of yawgmoth which I already had some. If you can try to keep budget in mind, I broke my wallet on the dark depths so I want need to keep the next couple of cards under $10 (per card) if that is possible. I pretty much own everything that is listed in the deck (except the dark depths but I already ordered them).
Alright, I do like that nighthaze let's you draw a card but I replaced it with funeral charm. That will at least give me some other things to do with them if I can't give my creature swampwalk. I am still not too worried about taking two damage for the mental missstep because I need it to keep marit lage or hexmage alive, if I can't accomplish that then I would lose anyways.
One last thing is that I need is I always do a horrible job of choosing the amounts of each card that I need. I know I need 4 dark depths, 4 urborg, tomb of yawgmoth, and 4 hexmages to help the chances of the combo going off but everything else I just kind of want. Maybe I can lessen the amount of expedition maps and beseech the queen to make room for some spellskites and death's shadow.
Sorry, somehow I missed the "Legacy" part... my bad on the Tutor's. Blood Pet is a good mana excelerator and combined with Diabolic Intent, you can either have a tutor or mana ramp. Both should be cheap too. The most common deck though for Dark Depths runs blue as well and the main cards are: 4 Dark Depths 4 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth 4 Vampire Hexmage 2-4 Thopter Foundry 2-4 Sword of the Meek Then add various control cards... Thoughtseize (or Despise) and the like...
A splash of blue I have been considering but I have been trying to avoid it, it would provide greater protection but I am trying to work my way around it and keep it mono black. Blood Pet and Diabolic Intent are two really great cards with each other. Another one that I am considering it throwing in some rite of consumptions, they would give me the chance to kill an opponent without swinging on the second turn, possibly saving me from waiting for them to draw a path to exile.
I was lucky enough to pick-up dark depths for about $5 a piece just before Hxmage was printed. What I tend to do with depth's is run a vampire deck with Depths in it for a second win condition, keeps it mono black and aggressive. I won an extended tourny with it... don't quite remember it all, bt everything was low casting. Hee's something like it: 4 Dark Depths 4 Urborg, Tomb of Yagmoth 14 Swamp 4 Vampire Lacerator 4 Vampire Hexmage 4 Dark Ritual 3 Vampire Nocturnus 4 Vampire Nighthawk 4 Unholy Strength 4 Bloodghast 4 Feast of Blood 4 Lotus Petal 3 Diabolic Intent Everything can be cast by turn 1 or 2 with dark ritual and Lotus Petal in the mix. Bloodghast is perfect for Diabolic Intent... I managed to win the last match-up by casting dark ritual turn one into a Vampire Lacerator with 2 Unholy Strength's on it. A 6/4 on turn 1 is pretty amazing.
A very nice looking deck. I think I mostly have my deck figured out (although I am kind of considering getting some lotus petals... a first turn 20/20 would be insane). I wanted to know what you think about adding ragged veins to the side board, I think it would go really nice with the deck because if someone gets something like a ornithopter (or any other cheap flyer) out, then I can flash in ragged veins after he blocks it and still beat them.
I ultimately decided to add the one Phyrexian Obliterator I own to the side board, I figured if anything it would be something nice to keep them distracted until the combo goes off.
Drumhead, what do you think of me adding four verdent catacombs to the deck. I figured since nothing costs over 3 mana that if I can thin out some of my lands that would give me a greater chance of either drawing a useful card (or one of the lands I might need). Also my friend is considering selling me two of his dark confident for a good price so I might be replacing the two dark tutelage with them. Overall what do you think so far.
Catacombs would be good... definitely won't hurt (no pun intended) and if you can get the Dark Confidant's than that's good. I like the addition of Apostle's Blessing as well. I would suggest running 4 Hymn to Tourach and only 2 Inquisition of Kozilek though. Hymn is a beast, especially with dakr ritual to fuel it early on.
I play tested it tonight, it worked really well so far. I was thinking of maybe splitting the hymn to tourach and inquisition of kozilek because they both are really good, the thing I like about inquisition is that it allows me to pluck out the annoying things like unsummon, path to exile, and swords to plowshares. Then again I loved seeing the look on my friend's face tonight every time I hit him with a hymn to tourach. I did run into some instances where I already made him discard all the stuff that cost 3 or less. I didn't get the dark confidant's though, he ultimately decided that he wants to keep them. I did get one thing though that I wanted tonight from my local game store... 4 lotus petals (for $3 a piece.. they were slightly used but still in good condition). I am weighing the option if I should add them or not, getting them in the beginning would be great but later on it would not be what I want to draw. I really like the dark tutelage but if I had to take out a card it would be them to make room for 2 lotus petals. It is just that I hate that beseech the queen states that it's converted mana cost is 6 and I would hate to take that damage. I do like diabolic intent but that would mean that I have to add creatures to sacrifice (maybe a priest of gix), I am considering it to swap out the beseech the queens but I am not quite sure yet. I like a lot of what you suggested so far but I am getting to a point where I am having a hard time parting with certain stuff or making room for other stuff. What is your opinion on this. I thought about how apostle's blessing could not only protect the marit lage (or hexmage) but also possibly make it unblockable so I thought it would be a worthy card to add. I also came across another interesting card the other day searching through my cards (that I didn't remember at all) which was Darkness ( a black holy day ), I thought it might come in use due to the games I played today. My buddy has a legacy exalted deck that runs on sovereigns of lost alara and eldrazi conscription which is a deadly combination when you include things such as finest hour, fetch lands, lotus cobras, noble hierarchy, and rafiq the many. I was just pondering if I should slide in protect for decks that cause a tremendous amount of damage fast (kind of like mine).
Sounds to me like the deck plays well but is lacking control and can easily be stopped. My suggestion is to start from scratch with the win condition in mind... I'll write up a Marit Lage deck for you and add some black control for help. I'll pot the link later. I will do my best to keep it budget friendly.
For Sideboard I'd add Phyrexian Negator if up against creature less blue control (you know force of will, counterspell) if you get one out turn 1 with a ritual and your opponent doesn't have a force of will then the game could be yours.
Props for a mono-black that doesn't include Phyrexian Oblierator :P