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I think Chancellor of the Dross looks ALOT like General Grievous! am i the only one that sees that resemblance? Obviously it's just the face/mask but i wonder what the rest of the body would look like...anyway here's my Vampire deck. Like always i'm looking for comments and suggestions. i'm not trying to keep this deck "Vampires" it's just really good against the current metagame right now General Grievous was the jedi killer, so i appropriately named my deck after him, this deck works to kill the metagame, well thats the goal!
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Looks pretty good, only problem i COULD see is that you may run into more creature-kill than you need. against UW Caw-Blade you only need doom blade and disfigures. i'd add some other creatures SB just against that match up. i like the splash of white! The swords on Phyrexian Obliterator, V. Nighthawk, and Sheoldred are gonna wreck some decks!
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i've tried to keep it as straightforward as posssible. I Usually save Doom Blades for Gideon, use Disfigures on hawks or SF Mystic. i can always sideboard in the other swords but i don't want to need a "creature kill" and not have one. kinda the Condom theory... lol
Yea, CotD and GG look similar
One thing you might want to think about is making sure you have some resistance on Phyrexian Obliterator. He's best blocked.
well thats actually the point of the sword(s) if he goes unblocked I get the full effect of the swords. Obviously trample plays a big role in his dmg dealing but unblocked makes him a BIG threat!
OK made a few changes: I took out the Grasps of darkness, and added another sword, an Inquisition of Kozilek, a Phyrexian Obliterator, and a Stoneforge mystic. I want 4 Phyrexian Obliterators but i'm not sure if i need them. What do you think? I think they're my new favorite card! It's basically the T-Rex(T-WREX of decks) of the deck! when i drop that pretty much have field advantage! then i use sheoldred to bring it back(if it ever dies)
well considering what you're playing against it MIGHT help to have 4 but it always depends on the situation. you're not running a lot of Mana. 22 is fine but if you hit a "famine" of mana and have 2+ in your hand you have a problem! i'd keep it at 3. also i'd switch the IoK to Duress. you can take out more things imo.
I think you mean "feast of mana".
evil presence seems pretty pointless. sure it can slow them down a little, I'd put it into your sideboard and put it in for some haste hate. Look at putting in Sign in Blood to help give you some card advantage.
it's for sheoldred. it's an easy slow down with lasting effect. i do see it being pointless though. also thinking about taking out chancellor of the dross. flying lifelink is nice but not for 7. i'll make some changes. thanks!
okay took out the evil presence and the sheoldred. i may switch sheoldred in for chancellor..i need to keep play testing it
u need to change the name since you took out the card that looks like General Grevious.
I named it General Grievious just because Chancellor of the Dross looks like him. got nothing to do with the deck.
Batterskull would rock here, especially on the obliterator. It can beat face AND have vigilance and lifelink!? Dub-tee-eff! lolz
Also, maybe think about Mimic Vat?
I thought about running batterskull but it's a bit more expensive than i would like to play with as far as equipping and what-not. i agree it would wreck someone's face, The Mimic Vat isn't aggressive enough. it's just not amazingly helpful in Standard right now. it's nice with Skinrender but thats kind of it.
if i were to run Batterskull what do you think i should take out? i'm trying to make the deck as strong as possible but don't want "fluff" if that makes sense. i like batterskull alot but idk what to take out.
ok belive me when i tell you you would rather have inquisiton or despise rather than duress duress is a great sideboard card to bring in against control If u end up playing kuldotha red or mono white quest or valakut these would be much better with despise or inquisiton
yes! you also need a way to deal with atifact/ enchantments. right now U/R Ascension/Pyro Twin is raping standard so you would need a way to get rid of the PA. you can deal with splinter twin easily with doom blade and what not, but black doesn't really have a viable "destroy target artifact/ enchantment" so since you're already splashing white you may want to look into Solemn offering as a potential SB card.
Okay made some more changes, took out the Grasp of Darkness and go for the throat for 4 solemn offering and duress in the SB. i switched Inquisition in for duress. What's everyone's opinion on Surgical extraction? that looks good enough to be mainboard
extraction is good only if you know what you need and only against certain decks. Valacut its amazing. Tech edge, extraction, boom gone..where are those titans...go for or doomblade blame i win. against caw go you have alot more to deal with, hawks, gideon, stoneforge, not really that good here. SB yeah not MB. check out my deck if you want and tell me what you think about it if ya want http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=179767
This looks a lot like the mono-black deck I was considering; some difference in the cards, yours has more balance and is probably more competitive against a range of decks. I just like mono-black for Lashwrithe, the free equip on a Vault Skirge makes for nice life gain. One suggestion? Add a Batterskull. I use them in mine, its not great because of the mana cost, but I think every deck with Stoneforge Mystic should have just one. Playing that on turn 3 means you can essentially gain 8 life per turn (if your opponent attacks) while hammering them hard. I think it's a good card for keeping the pressure up while keeping you alive; anyone have opinions?
Sorry to make two posts, responding to an earlier comment I just saw. You get extra like points :) I do think you're missing the point of Stoneforge Mystic + Batterskull = really cheap 4/4 vigilance lifelink. I would honestly remove the 1 surgical extraction; it doesn't do much for you. The extraction is a powerful card, and its very nice in your sideboard with enough extra discard spells. Once you know what your opponent is up to, you can bring that in second game to preempt them. But you're unlikely to both pull your only Surgical Extraction and get them to discard it before its too late with your current main board. If you're going to main board that, run less board control (Doom Blade), put in more discard spells; Despise works nicely, instead of killing a creature just prevent them from summoning it.
all good dude! i want all the help i can get. i tried out what you were saying and made a few changes, take a look and see what you think. thanks for the advice!
look at despise in your sideboard too. cawblade, rug, and valakut, all love certain creature or plainswalkers in their opening hand, aka: hawk / stoneforge / gideon / jace OR cobra / titan / jace / etc... OR inferno / primeval / cobra. also, when the hell do you ever expect that praetor to actually get out? it seems totally like it's wasting space. also, you really think that stoneforge is worth splashing that for? really? I just can't see that REALLY being worth it. think about this. you run 4 seekers, and 2 sought after cards. that's a total of 6 ways to get them. why sacrifice your mana base for a 4 black when you just run 3 of each...?
I'm smellin what you're stepping in, but i definitely want the splash. it seems like a sacrifice to drop a mystic turn 2 instead of a kicked GK turn 3 or Phyrexian Obliterator turn 4, but it hasn't been at all! turn 2 mystic, drop a sword, turn 3 put it into play (counter free) and bring out a Vault skirge, turn 4 i've got a 3/3 flying, lifelink, prot w/e.. then when turn 5 hits if i drop a batterskull and only think i have to look out for is a Doj. which a duress can get rid of. i think this set up gives me options, i'll need to keep play testing it against certain match ups but it's fun and pretty good.
Okay, i did some playtesting, i've decided to take out the Praetor for a Batterskull. since i'm running only 3 stoneforge mystics it's been hard to get on the field due to the counterspells and creature kill but once i did get it out it made a huge difference! My buddy pilots a Caw-Blade and i beat him 2 different matches.(i'm proxying the newer cards until i get them) As far as the Praetor, i got her out twice in 5 games, not bad imo. but I agree that her helpfulness is lacking. the second time i got her out i didn't even do anything with her, total waste of mana. Also added some Tectonic edges and threw the surgical extraction to the SB. Added 2 despise, they've been helpful but not as amazing as i need but i'll keep them. any other suggestions? i'm feeling pretty good about the set up so far and is working really well! i'll have to wait for NP to come out and bring this ti FNM and see how it goes.
...Am i the only one who doesn't see a chancellor at all in this list?
anawon the ruin sage!!!!
cool look at my gideon´s parasite
im not seeing it...
What about go for the throat? And can I get some help with my wheen walls attack deck? Its needs some adjustment.
Geth's Verdict screams put me in this deck or sideboard for those proc black creatures and it is jsut awesome. Edict all over again. also, 4 gatekeepers and 2 nighthawks...control your oppenent's creatures then hit em hard and fast. Love teh deck :) check out mine and tell me what you think http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=183471