kmk888

Thanks man. I appreciate that.

Well, Gorgon's Head is almost as good for this deck, it's just not on theme and doesn't grant lifelink. It's probably like 4 cents though

Definitely cool deck. I particularly like that you had a theme but you didn't stick to it so much that you excluded other great cards like Fanatic of Mogis and Archetype of Aggression. Like Puschkin mentioned, Basilisk Collar would be a flavor win. However, it would also be a mechanics win. With the amount of Double Strike and the addition of Ashmouth Hound (Firstest Strike), Basilisk Collar could wreck face. Not to mention all the "must be blocked by X creatures" effects.

I would also cut Vandalblast and Final Punishment, maybe even Hammer of Purphoros, for the 4th Ashmouth Hound, at least 3 Mogis's Hound, and maybe the other 2 Madcap Skills.

Have fun, maybe make a W/G cat deck to fight it!

aggressive strategies? I don't think you've been introduced to Nyxfleece Ram, my friend! Also Spirit of the Labyrinth may help against control.

I might try building something like this deck. Can you tell me your favorite parts of the deck?

Slith Bloodletter does not synergize with anything in the deck. Sure it gets bigger every time it hits, but if they have any creatures whatsoever it's pretty much useless. As a game ender, it's too small and too slow. To which you reply, you can use it for defense! Tell me, do you want to save two mana every turn to regenerate a 1/1 just for chumpblocking? Is that worth the mana inefficiency of not playing the rest of your cards on curve? (That's not even considering the idea that the opponent has trampling or evasive creatures) And the regeneration doesn't really offer it much protection. It can be bounced, countered, exiled, sacrificed, or subjected to -/- effects.

The opportunity cost is what really kills it for me: consider that on turn 2 you could be playing Ravenous Rats or Distress, Geth's Verdict or Ritual into a Specter. All these would push card advantage or develop your board, getting you closer to the kind of endgame you want to be in: them topdecking the least effective cards in their deck while you have a couple of okay creatures in play and some good answers in hand to help clear the way.

In order to get to that endgame, you need to have an effective attrition game even early on while developing your board. In other words: your creatures should all provide you card advantage. To this end, a better choice would be Liliana's Specter, Chittering Rats, or Hypnotic Specter. Or maybe you for some reason are in love with the regeneration flexibility and/or 2 drops, in which case I would recommend Augur of Skulls instead.

All of these things would be better than Slith Bloodletter, a card that was only really decent in its limited environment.

This is definitely one of your better decks, but what the hell is Slith Bloodletter doing in there? Also I would splash blue for 4 Gitaxian Probes and 4 Vapor Snags.

foochow: than you've never played with Necromancer. That card is insane.

The temples make me take damage from burning earth just the same as the shocklands. Let me put it this way: I can't afford to ever pay the two life from the shocklands in a deck that hurts myself as much as this one, so I should probably just run the temples. The scry helps too.

Wow. I did not realize they ever printed a core set without it. Well that's obnoxious, it was helpful for avoiding damage from Burning Earth. If I put shocklands in there I'm basically going to kill myself. Take 2 off putting it down and 1 every time I tap it? That's miserable.

Believe it or not, this really hurts my strategy

I feel you on the mana issues. And it's true that you do need the Mutavaults, they're completely necessary. I don't know about 4 though. I have a deck like this that I built like the minute I saw Athreos and I have been very conflicted on the 2 drop slot too. I think right now I have 4 Aristocrats, 4 Captains, and 2 Sovereigns. This means I put myself in a position where I have some trouble casting my 2 drops and I've forsaken the Daring Skyjek completely. It's not ideal, and I have no idea what the correct mix of those drops is. But on intuition I would say that you don't need 4 Sovereigns, Mutavaults, or Orzhov Charms.

Maybe you could try like 2 Sovereigns, 4 Aristocrats, 3 Charms, and 3 Skyjeks? Really the one that has performed the best for me has been Aristocrat (although against something like Jund what I really want is 6 copies of Sovereign). I think it might be safe to give up on Precinct Captain unless we decide to focus on white and put in some Spears of Heliod. I would also swap one Mutavault for a Plains, because drawing multiple Mutavaults is miserable.

I am sure this deck will appear on the Grand Prix circuit after the Pro Tour, so I will be watching with curiosity to see what the "correct" numbers are.

Definitely not bad for sideboard. Good catch. But Skyjek is a very powerful form of evasion, and has 3 power to boot... it makes more sense to put Spirit in the sideboard and then switch it in instead of the Imposing Sovereigns for control matchups

You should probably switch out Gnarled Scarhide for Cartel Aristocrat. The ability to sac with no restrictions is very important in this kind of deck and he can punch through damage. TBH I wouldn't want to be running less than 4. Any time you can get him, Athreos, and Necromancer together you accumulate card advantage like mad. And Gnarled Scarhide is a good aggressive creature, but since Necromancer is the second best card in the deck I would try to stick to humans. Maybe if you're dying for 1 drops you could try Nyxborn Shieldmate, but just to reiterate you do need Cartel Aristocrat.

High Priest of Penance is a good suggestion, but only for certain matchups (like monored or monsters) and so needs to be restricted to sideboard. Doom Blade is always good for green matchups, which I suspect would be particularly weak. Some people are actually running this deck splashing blue for Lyev Skyknight and (more importantly) Supreme Verdict. Since this deck resists Verdict better than pretty much any other deck in Standard that runs creatures, some people go ahead and play it to dominate creature heavy decks. I think that seems silly, since it will be a dead card against control, but it's an excellent sideboard card if you do move into blue.

Anyways, nice deck.

Well I don't have the Dakra Mystic in there, but http://www.mtgvault.com/kmk888/decks/forcefeed/

This is the list I've been playing for a while. You may be interested in Fate Unraveler if you can't find a Notion Thief/it doesn't stick

Pretty good aggro deck, I feel it. But you should know that playing 4 mana confluences is a terrible idea. I never play more than 3, even in combo decks. This is because if you draw multiples you will probably burn yourself out. Also, although you are trying to play on curve, even monored decks play scrylands because in the late game you can plop them down, get rid of a land off the top, and that's basically as good as drawing you a card. I would definitely go for -2 Mana Confluence, -1 Mutavault, -1 Swamp, +4 Temple of Silence.

I like the rest of the deck, and a decent sideboard too! We could see this type of deck hitting Grand Prixs pretty hard.

Pretty interesting experimental deck, I've been wondering if they printed enough support for it to make its way into Standard. But I can't help but feel that you are missing out unless you include Ethereal Armor/Eidolon of Countless Battles and Sphere of Safety at least in the sideboard.

Some things that could help shore up your weakness against control and fit into the deck rather well might be Assemble the Legion or Elspeth, Sun's Champion. Since in this meta it's actually harder to remove a planeswalker than an enchantment, and she provides instant gratification, Elspeth is probably better. You can also include Boros Charm for the indestructible mode to protect your 2 and 3 drops. Food for thought!

Hey, no problem man. That dude was being an asshat. And thank you for the +1.

As for the deck, I don't entirely know what to add either, it's still largely in the experimental phase!

First of all, telling someone they're not fit to help with a deck makes you a dick. You don't have to take their advice even if they give it to you, so don't randomly bash them. Second of all, he's right. This deck is fairly random and does not have a clear theme that I can see. The other people commenting are right too; Jitte is far better than Sword, you'll never get to cast Bolas in Legacy (You'll never get the mana before somebody combos you or they'll just counter it), and Olivia Voldaren is just a random inclusion. Bonfire of the Damned and Ashiok are both singularly ill-suited for legacy play. Even Wurmcoil Engine is very random and not that great without mana ramp.

In that case, 3 copies probably would be more suitable. I can see you came to that conclusion too. I really like this deck. I hope this deck lives up to my expectations!

I like the deck, and I haven't seen this concept since Journey into Nyx has been released, so good on you. But you forgot something... LAUNCH THE FLEET

That card should add some really serious punch to this deck. Go crazy!

-2 Harness by force, -1 Barrage of Expendables, -1 Molten Birth, +4 Launch the Fleet.