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Green Weenie(ish) deck that I built around the idea of as many 1 cc creatures as possible with Overwhelming Stampede as a finisher. It runs few lands because it has such a low mana curb and so very mana mana geeks. It really only needs 2-3 lands in play to do what it's supposed to do. A very simple deck, the first time I played it, it won. It continues to do well and is fun in casual play. Comments and suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Edit: Added 2 Jade Mage (will never need more than one in play at a time) and removed 2 swords (again, one in play is usually enough). Edit 2: Swapped Fyndhorn Elves in for more mana rampand for Immaculate Magistrate, removed forests and Jund Panorama. Put in 3 Gaea's Cradle. Added two Ezuri's Archers for more flying defense and creatures to stomp with. Swapped in two swords and swapped out two doubling chants (again, only ever need to play one per game). Now has comparatively few lands (don't overlook the 4 Dryad Arbors) but it doesn't need many lands with this much 1 CMC mana accell. The fastest I've ever been able to set this deck off and win by is turn 5 with a massive Mycoloth having devoured a couple of arbors and elves leaving me with only two lands left for mana, but there was nothing my opponent could do anyway. At that point I apologized to my opponent because I don't like decks that win so fast without some push and pull. It was basically a perfect draw and a fluke, but it can happen :) T1 - Forest + elves or birds T2 - Arbor + 2 more mana creatures T3 - Mycoloth devours 4 creatures, it's a 12/12. Win through damage with Myco and tokens by T5. Requires 6 cards out of 10 or 11 drawn by turn 3, so not great odds of happening, but it has. If you like this deck, be sure to check out my treefolk deck! Lots of mana accell leading to big indestructible creatures rushing in to play faster than opponents can keep up, then wrath the board! - http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=382265
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This is scary. I would suggest Primordial Hydra too? or Skinshifter for defense / alternate offense. And put in 2 Garruk Planeswalker. Preferably the one with Overrun effect. Nice deck. Liked it~ ^^,
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Great idea! Though, looking up hydras and keeping with the theme of 1 cc creatures, I think protean hydra might fit the deck better (for theme) though Primordeal's trample would certainly help as a solo finisher if I'm not getting the stampede that I need. The only problem I would have with skinshifter is that it takes g to temporarily activate its ability, meaning that if I wanted to use it to set off Overwhelming Stampede I would need 1 extra mana for that turn. 1 Mana's not much, especially considering the accell in this deck, but it could be enough to set me back a turn or two. I'm glad you liked the deck, please check out some of my others and comment! :)
I don't know if it's modern legal or not, but I have a green saproling deck and make great use of spare mana with Jade's mage. Even if with 4 mycoloths you probably wouldn't need them. But hey, who knows, check it out.
Probably could gen tokens faster initially (and accelerating) with Jade Mage, but the problem is, what lil' creature would I take out? I need the 8 big creatures I have for overwhelming stampede, so it's not as though I can replace Mycoloth with Jade Mage (though as I said, she would do the job faster).
Why is dryad arbor in all of your decks? It's really cool but it's not that good its a llanowar elf that counts as your land drop Besides that the main thing I see is the sword it seems odd here I'd go with what the other guy said and add some garruk's thou
Sword is here for two reasons. 1 - Protection from two of the colors most prone to creature hate (though black takes the lead and I know white can exile) 2 - Card draw (main function of the sword honestly). I think those two functions combined make it quite valuable, but you're right, I could replace it with Jade Mages... Hmmm... Good idea! Dryad arbor is in here and my nacatl deck specifically for devour. It's in my enchantments so I can use it to spam mana like crazy (equip it with instill energy). With it and the right enchantments I can get over 50 man/turn and play the entire deck. I think those are the only three it is in?
Also, in this deck specifically, doubling chant+dryad arbor=mana accell, that and my arbor adds a creature I play for free that can swing for massive damage once Overwhelming Stampede happens.
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maybe add something with poliferate so when ever a counter is placed, you place another one, also maybe add triumph of the horde just incase your playing a life gain deck and ur having trouble bringing there life down, just hit em up with some infect, if you have alot of creatures it could be an easy win
hey beowulf, im trying to make an infect deck and could use some help, youve seen most of my other deks and have been a big help, heres the link http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=389203
I would swap the birds for arbor elves, as they will bost immaculate magistrates ability a little bit. (unless you have the birds to pump up for a flying defence?) you could drop 4 forests for 4x misty rainforest, for one life it massively reduces the chances of a dead draw late game. Other than that, this is an awesome deck, I would hate to get to late-game vs it. well done. :)
Might even want to add tanglewood paragon, gives every greature with +1/+1 tokens trample... just a thought. (and boosts immaculate magistrate's ability)
Birds are in here for both flying protections (have saved my life a few times) and for easier card draw and pinging with swords. If I were going to sub out forests for fetch lands I would probably go with a panorama card. I could still tap it for colorless if I need a mana boos immediately, and I can just wait to have free mana at the end of an opponent's turn to sac it and search instead of paying one life. Good idea though!
Oh, and don't need Tanglewood Paragon to give my creatures trample, that's Stampede's job. besides that, it wouldn't really help the tokens because they are not warriors, I would have to put +1/+1 on each of my creatures individually for him to really be helpful. And you're right, this is a late game deck. I mostly play multiplayer so many of my decks are much stronger in the late game while they only really focus on surviving and not drawing attention in the early game.
Maybe parrallell lives? Just for more tokens, also elderscale wurm and predator ooze are fun
I approve of both of those ideas. Consider them sideboarded!
I love the deck :D Only thing I could possibly think of to help, and this is only coming from what small experience I have, would be Gutter Grime. Mostly because he spawns tokens for you to either devour, or when you do devour you get tokens that are doubled by doubling season. These tokens would then become increasingly power as well throughout the game :D
Actually, Gutter Grime would combo really well with any devour deck. Fantastic idea! I'll sideboard it and try it out later. :)
Kahlni hydra would be an awesome card to add to this deck. Also you should check out bear umbra to see if you like it. That old definitely help this deck.
Khalni Hydra is perfect, can't believe I missed this comment. Seems hydras of all kinds work well with overwhelming stampede. Bear Umbra is good, but if I were to go that route I would throw in Sword of Feast and Famine instead.
It's expensive, but Glimpse of Nature would be great here with the amount of 1 drops you have.
I could see the card being situationally appropriate, especially if recovering from a board wipe. Unfortunately, most of my mana comes from my 1 drops, so by the time I have one mana to spare to use glimpse of nature many of my one drops will already be in play. It is sideboarded for future consideration though. Good suggestion, I'll have to playtest it to see how it works. No worries about how expensive a card may be, all of my decks are theoretical and if I play with them it is either as a proxy deck or on line on Cockatrice.
Didn't get a chance, nor reason, to make any use of the Jade Mages, but every other card in this deck just worked so well together then I played it. Mycoloth, Doubling Season, Doubling Chant, and Immaculate Magistrate really just let me go wild with thousands of tokens before turn 10. It was very powerful, and exceptionally fun to play, and besides some maths needed for token/counter generation, it's also exceptionally easy to play! 10/10
Another Cradle deck? lol. * Why Overwhelming Stampede instead of a regular Overrun? The former might have potential to do more damage but usually that +3/+3 from Overrun is sufficient. Overrun, however, will always give at least +3/+3. If your bigger dudes get killed and all that's left are mana dorks and tokens, then Overwhelming Stampede is more like an Underwhelming Duckwalk. * Again, no enchantment/artifact removal despite the fact that Viridian Zealot provides that within your tribe (so creature count won't get lower).* Also again: A risky manabase. You said this is for multiplayer. It's commonplace in multiplayer that someone casts a boardsweeper every few turns. A single Wrath of God will screw you royally since all your mana dorks including those Dryad Arbors will die AND the Cradles will all of a sudden produce zilch mana. Vice versa, early removal might also break your neck. I don't think running just 8 regular Forests is a good idea.* At a certain point, Doubling Season becomes just a "win more" card. I think 2 of them are enough for this.* Wouldn't Sword of Body and Mind fit better than Fire & Ice? Because it produces tokens, that is. Fire & Ice is usually the better one.* You are running expensive cards like Cradle and Swords. Do you also own Noble Hierarchs (replacing BoPs) and Natural Order?
Hah, own these cards? Pfft.(nah, it was a legit question).I stopped buying cards long ago, now I only play online on Cockatrice where all cards are available to everyone, or IRL with proxies. Wizards has managed to fool its casual players in to believing that ink on paper is worth the price they charge for the cards. Really, that's only true if you're a hardcore collector or planning on playing professionally. IMHO casual players would be wise to stick to proxies, otherwise Magic becomes a "pay to win" game where the player with the largest disposable income and the best googling skills can stomp the group consistently.I run cradle in the majority of my green decks, and the majority of my decks are green because I love aggro. In some decks it is necessary, in others it is overkill.I'm aware of Overrun, but I'm using Stampede because when I discovered it I decided I wanted to make the most use of it that I could. An Overrun deck would have been far simpler to construct, with nothing but 1 CMC creatures and no need to find the most complimentary big creatures. It would also probably in 2-3 turns faster, but that wasn't the idea for this deck, the deck was designed around Overwhelming Stampede and maximizing my 1 CMC creatures by complimenting them with the best fatties for the situation.I would consider Body and Mind as an alternate sword, but I like the card draw off of Fire and Ice. You are correct though, it fits thematically.You're correct that I really only need one Doubling Season in play, that being said I want to be sure to draw it. It is also (rightfully) a prime target for removal , so having 4 in the deck isn't a bad thing. The first one I play will usually get removed (if not, then easy game). With 4 in the deck, I can just shrug it off and soak up the removal.It is a risky mana base, but the vast majority of these creatures are only 1 CMC AND produce mana. This deck easily wins with only two lands in play (even without Cradle). If it got board wiped, it wouldn't matter how much mana I had available, because my hand is usually empty by then anyway. This deck has to win before or between board wipes, it's a real glass cannon.It's true that Noble Hierarch could replace BoP (they are in another one of my decks) but I like having at least one flying creature in the deck in order to poke with swords or just pile +1/+1 tokens on top of when it comes down to it. That and Exalted wouldn't be of much use in this deck, as it is a swarm deck and things almost never attack alone.Natural Order... That's something I don't think I originally considered! It fits very well. I'll sideboard it for future reference.Viridian Zealot does deal with artifacts and enchantments, but he's not a 1 CMC creature. This deck's main strategy when dealing with troublesome artifacts/enchantments is *clears throat, dramatic pause, deep breath* "OVERWHELMING STAMPEEEEEEDE!" (It's actually kind of fun to yell that when you clobber your opponents with the card, maybe bring a trumpet along for effect). I mean, you kill the card's controller and the card goes away. Best way to deal with an unwanted card. If I designed the deck for 1v1 I might be more concerned with targeted permanent removal, but in multiplayer I'd rather focus on relentlessly rushing my strategy while my opponents can go ahead and water down their decks with targeted removal.
Also, by all means drop me a link for something else you want me to look at.
Well, if 1ccs are so important for you, have you thought about Stampede Driver? Should fit the theme very well.And if the Overwhelming Stampede is set in stone - what about something like Seal of Strength or War Dance? You can it play early and pop it later in the turn you cast the Stampede. That way you would lessen the risk of only having 1/1s by the time you are able to stampede.
Stampede driver is interesting, he does fit the theme, but I'm wondering how exactly I would go about using him? Most of the creatures in this deck are only 1/1, using Stampede driver would make them all 2/2 with trample, which isn't exactly overwhelming... (pun intended). He looks like he would fit better in to a deck of creatures who are already nice and fat, just to push them over the edge to insanity. Maybe you have an idea bout how to use him that I'm not seeing, because you are 100% right that he fits the theme and I kind of want to make him work but I'm not seeing it.Seal of Strength, consider it sideboarded. With a card like that I could do away with having ANY fatties in the deck, and just play it in combination with overwhelming stampede. Make a card a 4/4, then give all of my cards +4/+4 and trample. It would probably go off faster than it does currently. Same for War Dance (I love exploiting old cards by combining them with cards that came a decade later, lol.)Also, I'm sideboarding Noble Hierarch (which I have used in other decks and you suggested but I didn't like initially) because it solves a problem I've been having: namely, how to make this deck modern friendly and replace Fyndhorn Elves. Get rid of the elves and the Cradle and BOOM the deck fits in to modern.
Yeah, I know Stampede Driver isn't going to be huge, I just HAD to mention him because of the name, the effect and him being cc1 :)Both Seal of Strength and War Dance aren't Modern legal, though.
As it is the deck isn't modern legal, that wasn't the original goal for it. However, once in a while I meet random players at a club and they want to play modern, it would be nice to have a few modern legal decks to join them. I think this and my Treefolk are my best options for potentially modern decks.If you want to see a disgustingly dirty not even remotely casual unfair expensive way too few lands deck that does so well I refuse to play it, check out this deck I built.http://www.mtgvault.com/beowulf85/decks/fast-and-unfair-death-by-ornithropter/It's designed around putting the best artifact equipment I can find on to 0 CMC creatures and isn't legal in any format because of Academy. It stomped so much face so consistently when I was playtesting it that I just put it away because I don't want to be "that guy" in casual, lol.
Well the Fyndhorn Elves could easily be switched to Mystic Elves and the Gaea's Cradle for Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx making this a modern legal build. My only other suggestion would be putting Doubling Season to a 2 of and adding 2x Craterhoof Behemoth. Adding another great win con which has been proven in similar builds.
Elvish mystic and Shrine to Nyx are great cards, with the two of hem I could probably make modern versions of 2-3 of my decks, thanks!Craterhoof Behemoth is a hilariously appropriate suggestion. I have literally had over a thousand tokens in play with this deck when Doubling Season drops, then a Mycoloth followed by another Mycoloth (one or two turns later)...