Draco90

Right analysis.... You convinced me... :D

How about Hunter's Prowess? http://magiccards.info/bng/en/124.html
Seems nice in this deck... can be an acceleration to Lorescale Growth...

I post here for both "black idea decks":

I thinks this has more solid base, but the best is to merge the two decks: monoblack and phyrexian paiment costs:

OUT: (in brackets n° cards out)
- (2) liliana vess: too expensive, not fit this deck so much. Crypt ghast is way better for mana purpose.
- (3) drain life: concept is nice, but the card not so powefull.
- (2) choose between exanguinate and consuming spirit. The former is for multiplayer and the latter is more multipurpose. take 4 in the deck and 4 in the side if you plan playing multi.
- (2) roiling horror: there are cards way better.

IN: (in brackets n° cards in)
- (2) Phyrexian Arena: simply awesome and fit the concept.
- (4) Mutagenic growth: with vampire nighthawk or vault skyrge is gratis +2/+2.
- (1) Moltensteel Dragon.
- (1) Phyrexian Metamorph. both moltensteel and metamorph are nice cards you can play, can choose one or two of a kind, or only one type and leave the other for the side.
- (2) Exquisite Blood
- (2) Sanguine Bond: with exquisite blood is like "instawin". If switch the Erebos with the Whip, the results are assured.


OUT: 9 cards, IN: 12 cards.
Now is up to you to choose from "in cards" if there is something that please you better, strategy speaking.

I've had some tests and i think i had to re-engineer the deck... soo... thanks for the advices!

Why always so many cards? 75? Too much for me! :D

OMG missed the medic! :D

Thromok is awesome but i want to keep the Dragon tribal flavor...

I had a typo.. is not Mimic cards, is Simic of course. xD

Hi! I'm here again, i'll try to help you with the deck... dunno if i am capable to accomplish your desires.
I see a way tooooooo looooooong list of awesome creatures.
I suggest to shorten the list comparing the cost, the relative cost (relating to the power and the ability), the usefullness of the creature.
Than choose like 3-4 creature of increasing cost and pick 2 of them. Add some drop 1-2 start creature and some middle cost helping guys. Spell compart seems to be rather ok.

My personal choices are:
- Symic Sky Swallower
- Murkfiend Liege
- Primeval Tital
- Vigor
- Progenitor Mimic
- Giant Adephage

But you can switch they for
- Wurms
or
- Hydras
following your preferences.

I though it can be nice to stick with Mimic cards. You can transform your deck in a more linear growth way considering Simic Evolve mechanic:
Creatures:
- ShambleShark
- Nimbus Swimmer
- Lorescale Coatl
- Drakewings Krasis
- Prime Speaker Zegana
- Gyre Sage
- Elusive Krasis
- Fathom Mage
- Master Biomancer
- Zameck Guildmage
- Experiment One
- Cloudfin Raptor
- Simic Fluxmage
- Simic Manipulator
- Battering Krasis
- Renegade Krasis

Spells:
- Simic Charm
- Unexpected Results
- Bioshift
- Bred for the Hunt
- Give/Take

Hope i managed to give some point of thoughts.. ;)

Thanks for the advice! I've also found these:
- http://magiccards.info/m12/en/22.html
- http://magiccards.info/mi/en/18.html
- http://magiccards.info/m13/en/15.html
- http://magiccards.info/dka/en/3.html
- http://magiccards.info/ts/en/19.html

What do you think?

Yea, i've done a perfect balanced deck (on paper) and than tryed: i've had to modify the deck! :D

Yea next days i will meditate, but Righteous Charge seems too low velocity: is a sorcery. I prefer something more fast. Any ideas? For other creature i'll think. Thx anyway

I think that dragonmaster outcast can be good, but is 1/1 that cant do nothing: not attack not defence... so... your taste.. ok utvara is toooooo good for leaving it out... Yea i thought for oppo creature removal, or direct damage...

Nice but i dont like infect...

Hellooooooooooooo my dragon lover friend! I'm here to brake your balls with my awesome advices in 3....2....1....
xDDDDD

Seriously now. Veeery nice deck! I think i would develop my own version. :P
Now advice time:
OUT:
- Kargan
- Imperial Hellkite (toooo high cost for searchin a dragon)
- Rite of Flame

IN:
- Seething Song
- Last one Dragonspeaker Shaman
- Some card to put counter on Slumbering? Dragon Blood maybe, or some draw Browbeat.
- Think about Fledgling Dragon, in this deck would be awesome.

I'm thinking about taking out Utvaras and Kilnmouth( *Read with Leonidas Voice* : MAAAADNESS!!!!!!!!) for the last Valkas, and some shocks et simila. 28 creatures are too much, need to rearrange other spells... :D

I would be honoured if you mind to comment my own dragons decks...

Yea, i've look your dragon deck, not bad at all.. My points is in the defining of the strategy of the deck. Dragons can do multiple awsome decks. If you want "Many little dragons Few big guys" you should arrange the other deck.
I thought this one should be "Control Control Control .... Big Guys". Anyway you had a fantastic idea that i will copy of course.. :P a deck with little growing dragons....

The final point is always "Find an Idea, Define a Strategy, Build the Deck".

You have two or three ideas? dont worry if the dont fit in the same deck. Build another one. :D

1) 22-24 Creatures and you think they wouldn't come up? :D sometimes happens, but balancing the deck is the key.... (PS: Still trouble? Try add Browbeat ;) )
2)Yea, rite of flames is better than pyretic, i haven't considered it before for availability problems.
3) I was used to KABOOM the match with Gratuitous Violence and Rorix, 12 damage flying? Yes thanks. (PS: Also Tarox, the little brother will do the job)
4) I think that a strange dragon deck will be something like "Little Dragons Grows" with 4x Crucible and some minors cheap dragons that will pop out and become awesome... i will try it! :D (Hatchling and Eggs will fit this deck)
5) Valkas is not that bad... but is a slot occupied and the damage will be 2-3 at max points... with 3 or more dragons on the battlefield the game is already done for you. I will switch for a Steel Hellkite. Much more dangerous .
Valkas is very good in a token deck. I will put valkas utvara and broodmate dragon:
- valkas 1 dmg
- utvara 2 dmg
- broodmate 3 dmg
- broodmate token 4 dmg
attack: 4 dragons attack -> 4 tokens from utvara:
- 1st token : 5 dmg
- 2nd token: 6 dmg
- 3rd token: 7 dmg
- 4th token: 8 dmg
Total: 8 dragons 36 dmg from valkas. DONE!

Though that too... but i need constant flow of creature, someone has to block in the end... but it's also true that i need more buffs.... I'm still thinkin about it... (today's deck... still in elaboration..) XD

Personally i have a decade of experience on dragons' deck.
I own three atm, (monored, dragonstorm and devour).
I look your mana curve, and i think is good, but not awesome.
May i suggest:
OUT: (8 cards)
- archwing (4 mana less every turn)
- hatchling (2 mana for a 0/1? seriously?)
- volcanic (isn't so much mana efficient)
- hunted dragon (give the oppo some creatures)

MAYBE OUT:
- crucible of fire (your goal is to have powerfull dragons on their own. But i think this could be kept. Not so bad after all)
- pyretic ritual (+1 is not so good.. take out slots from the deck)

IN ABSOLUTELY:
- +1 dragonpeaker shaman
- +1 Kilnmouth (Simply AWESOEME dragon)
- +4 lightning bolt (slow down the oppo)
- +1 utvara
- +1 pyretic

OTHER DIFFICULT:
remove:
- ancient hellkite
- moonveil
- two headed
add
- rorix bladewing
- moltensteel dragon

try to get a strategy... i take my first 4-5 turns controlling oppo with shocks and lighting, than i go for shaman and or seething + geosurge.
Many times i had at turn 5 a kilnmouth 17/17 or 20/20.

Not bad but i think the siege gang commander is not worth... it can be shotted by near everything.. and for 5 mana you should choose another Voracious dragon. so i suggest -4x Siege gang and +2x Voracious and +2x Lightning bolt... :D