Smokestack Lightning

by surewhynot on 17 September 2016

Main Deck (99 cards)

Sideboard (21 cards)

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Deck Description

This is what happens when Quasimofo and I collaborate on a mono-black Stax EDH. Step on the opponent's throat and then use their own deck against them. The deck also abuses brutal ETB effects to keep the enemy in check.

Deck Tags

  • EDH
  • MBC
  • Control
  • Stax
  • Gonti

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Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Not Legal in Modern
  • Legal in Vintage
  • Not Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for Smokestack Lightning

Hm, why did you pick a mono-black commander? I mean, the commander isn't that important in this deck, so you could have picked something that gives you more options, colourwise. In this case, Jeleva is the closest thing to Gonti and she gives you access to blue, red AND black!

But if this stays mono-black, then I think you have forgotten Contamination.

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Posted 23 October 2016 at 09:55

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Mono Black Control (MBC) is a control style that counts on its own efficiency, so while other colors might add more options, they would actually make it harder for me to recover from these self-inflicted wounds. The whole idea of Stax, Pox, Stox, etc. is that I hurt you more than I hurt myself...This allows the use of some of the most brutal cards ever printed. Sometimes you will see what is called "Elmer's Pox" or "Glue Stax" or "Elmer's Stax", etc. and that's Stax with a splash of white. White has a number of spells that actually compliment Stax control styles quite well.

TL;DR -- This is mono black because its color's efficiency allows me to push the envelope for a classic Stax style control.

I know! =[ We were trying so hard to squeeze in Contamination...Still might wiggle it in somewhere, otherwise it's a sacrifice that needs to be made =/

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Posted 23 October 2016 at 17:56

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I know what Stax is from the good old time when I still played Vintage but it could afford at least two colours. What, exactly, would be harder to recover if you had more options? It's not that you are running Back to Basics, Blood Moon or anything like that. The only thing that shines with just one colour is Contamination and THAT one is absent, so ... white would give you Limited Resources (shudder), blue would give you Land Equilibrium (double shudder) and so on.

BTW, you also run no Sol Ring, what's the reasoning behind that? Dust Bowl is also missing, as is Bojuka Bog and Wasteland. Nether Void and Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale are probably missing because they are too expensive? Then again, you do have The Abyss, so I thought at least Nether Void would be within your budget, too.

Coffin Queen instead of Sepulchral Primoridal?

Did you consider Sengir Autocrat at some point but then ran out of deck space?
BTW, isn't it astounding how fast even 100 card highlander decks that specialize as heavily as this can run out of card slots?

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Posted 23 October 2016 at 18:55

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Uhm, it's not any one thing really, its more that I just have only one color of mana to worry about versus two or three. That's not to say that other colors aren't good for a control or even a Stax deck...I've just found in my experience that mono black works the best for it. Mono black means less options for other colored spells, but more *room* for recursion and ways to recover, which is something black especially has in spades. You are right though, I need to wiggle in Contamination somewhere. It's a staple of MBC for a reason =/

Sol Ring and I recently have not gotten along. You'll notice a number of my EDH decks, I've left it out, or taken it out for something else. Something like the last 25 times in a row that I have gotten Sol Ring in my hand, I got REKT...So I don't use it anymore. In a lot of cases too, that extra 2 mana boost isn't as worth it as something else that fills that slot.

Nether Void is in here. I'm even running a WinterVoid setup, and slapped Desolation on top for extra nastiness.

I have and can afford Tabernacle...I'm just running this through some test runs before making it a permanent inclusion (should have put it in the sideboard or something). The thing with Tabernacle is you really want to know if your deck can handle it. That's an effect that could honestly kick MY ass just as badly as someone else, so I need to be sure. As for the other lands, we honestly rushed with the lands, it was like 2am when we finished this thing =P Bog, Wasteland, and all that will be added soon I think.

Coffin Queen I think is a good SB option. It's a faster Primordial, but loses out on getting copied or blinked (In fact I wouldn't want it blinked) so it would work great for certain match ups.

Yeah we considered the Autocrat, but like you said, couldn't really fit him. Endrek puts in a ton of work in a similar style though, so we were ok with not having both. I've found its sometimes easier to fit 60 cards into a regular deck than the 99 in an EDH.

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Posted 23 October 2016 at 19:35

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Hm, you probably changed the list meanwhile, I swear I have seen an Abyss but no Nethervoid ...

Coffin Queen is not just faster, it can be used again and again without any other further card AND it can target your own creatures! It has its drawbacks, but I'd rather have something affordable than a chunky 7-mana-guy in a deck that regularily chews into it's own resources :)

About the Sol Ring, this just astonishes me, especially here where you run Worb and such. I may understand it for other EDH decks but here? Original Stax lists were chock-full of fast artifact mana, of course, that was in regular 60-card-decks where your goal was to drop a Smokestack as early as turn 1.

Plunge into Darkness?

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Posted 23 October 2016 at 20:13

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They have similar art. I've made the mistake before too. Even put one into a deck where I meant to put the other.

Yeah...I'm gonna test them both out a bit more, figure out which one I want in the SB. Still finishing up the SB, as like I said, we finished this at 2am and basically said "F that" to building a sideboard until later.

I just have had terrible luck with Sol Ring lately, and have made a bit of a point to move away from it. It might be good in here, but I'm not even gonna give it a chance haha. So mad at that card >.<

Plunge is going into the SB. One of my favorite cards of all time.

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Posted 23 October 2016 at 20:22

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