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Or be for ever fall’n.Black EDH inspired by picking through Artemis' Maralen EDH "Fly Blackbird, Fly", and in areas directly ripped from.I have fallen absolutely in love with the Bogbrew package.
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I mostly like this. I say mostly because there are, unfortunately, some glaring issues in my opinion. Firstly, you have multiple tutor/dig effects in a deck piloted by Maralen. I see very little need for anything of the sort. Why do you need to scry when you cannot draw? Secondly, while I understand the spirit/arcane scheme, I think Cranial Extraction will be wholly disappointing. Sadistic Sacrament, as Sure has explained to me, has the *potential* to be large enough to work as effective extraction in the size of EDH. What I took out of that is that is can also have the potential to flop. This is more of a heads up than an issue however…I still think it works for the deck. I must say it again though, Cranial Extraction should be replaced with something with a larger effect. The two that come to mind are Bitter Ordeal and Neverending Torment.At first I was going to say that you have too few lands, and you very well still might. However, after a while I came to thinking about the importance of lands in a deck with Maralen as the general. It could be argued that the ability to find a land at any moment it is needed alleviates a great deal of its importance. I might have to test my design with a smaller land count and perhaps find the butter zone, so to speak.
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The idea is simple as to why I would bother with having tutor effects; I found, even in testing, that the times I wouldn't want Maralen aren't so infrequent as one might hope. Letting somebody tutor up the dude(my pet name for Hermit Druid) is worse than me tutoring up the Rack. There are certain things that you need to prepare for as much as you can without Maralen before casting her, and tutor effects hasten that process.I will easily concede that two is too many though.Cranial Extraction is much to pricey for a single card, but you must it admit it seems at least remotely,tempting given the effect and that it can trigger.Bitter Ordeal would probably be my choice, as while Neverending Torment technically has higher capability, I can't resign myself to an Epic spell in a deck such as this. There are too many possibilities.Given the nature of EDH high land counts are part and parcel for most decks, but I find I haven't been enjoying the land count in my Witch-Maw deck even, and Maralen gives me reason to run an even more aggressive setup for it than I desire there even. Thirty just seemed like a good number to start testing with, and I have to tell you that it's been quite fitting.I appreciate you commenting Artemis, as you have much greater experience in these matters. I simply had an idea, and went with it.Postscript: Witches' Eye was put in because I was a little excessive with the witching theme.
The Dude... perfect fit for Hermit Druid!
This is a really cool deck, i like it a lot. i'm surprised to see the exclusion of nether void, is there something i'm missing that nonbos with it or something? Temporal extortion would also be sweet in this deck. though i see the combo of cloister and bridge, i still feel cloister is pretty lackluster. i would much rather run glacial chasm in that slot, since chasm + crucible results in the same lock wile being more resilient to removal (& landfall triggers for bloodghast), and chasm just seems more solid on its own than cloister. if you decide to do that, i might also consider scroll rack -- it doesn't technically draw so you can use it with maralen down, and once maleren is down you can use it to cycle away your less useful cards. though six mana is really pushing it, i might also consider eternity vessel. not taking damage from your general, any of your pestilence effects, and being able to draw as much as you like with necropotence seems ridiculous, and with crucible + strip mine it only gets better.
I can only take credit for certain portions, as the description says, it was mostly inspired by the one Artemis did. The Iname & co. package is one I always want to slip into EDH with a decent support for black, and I'd probably run Ichorid as well if I thought I could get away with it.Cloister and Bridge is lackluster, but it is a necessary precaution in my eyes. There is no card in EDH that I hate more than that damned Memory Jar. When one of our group heard I was tinkering with it, he sent me a text saying "lol memory jar" and attached this bit from Archerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXCpNOPAQ6wTemporal Extortion I don't know how I didn't think of, I used to love that card way more than I reasonably should. And Glacial Chasm is a bit of a facepalm moment for an xx-Lands player.Scroll Rack is an interesting option, not perhaps as attractive without Land Tax, but in the context of EDH could have amazing potential by itself.Eternity Vessel is a bit pushing it, I honestly think I'd rather risk the suicidal tendencies than throwing another card at that cost in. Though it is definitely an option for the sideboard with Maralen.It would be easy to use, and has synergy with many of the lines of play offered by this deck, but the mana cost is too extravagant for it to be justified in the mainboard I think.Thanks for the suggestions, what you and Artemis say will definitely be at the forefront when tweaking this. It's good, constructive advice, from people who know the deck and more importantly the format better.
any time. also, black sun's zenith seems ridiculously good -- tutor it up, board wipe, shuffles back in, rinse and repeat.
Now that is an option that had crossed my mind, but I thought Killing Wave was more useful for it's ease of casting. The argument of being able to reuse BSZ is compelling, but the sheer size of some of the creatures in EDH makes me a little concerned quite honestly, and the reduced casting cost is quite a benefit.One thing a friend suggested was the inclusion of Elixir of Immortality to both mitigate the cost of operating Maralen, and as a means of rearming.
Cloister comes in useful mostly in its capacity to protect you from discard during others' turns. Since the vast majority of discard effects are at sorcery speed, this is a huge boon. My Maralen deck features a healthy dose of discard for much the same reason it has protection from discard - With a general that lets players find whatever they wish, forcing them to no longer have those things is powerful.I almost put BSZ in mine, and I may still in the future. Even with the battle cruiser magic that can occur in EDH, it is a powerful form of board control, and can even be your only means of tackling certain creatures (Darksteel Colossus comes to mind). Killing wave is remarkable in pressure EDH decks. When life becomes a valuable resource, making your opponent(s) pay life to keep creatures is diabolical. Besides, its artwork is a sort of beautiful majestic macabre.I must say that Scroll Rack does indeed sound wonderful, and in conjunction with the at times superfluous card advantage granted by Necropotence, could come in quite useful.
Indeed. I dropped the targeted disruption in favor of other tactics, and the gamble that I can stabilize before the opponent. Which has held true unless nobody deals with Ashnod's Altar, in which case we have simplified the game for a few designs. Hermit druid however has had an amusingly bad time against this.The colossi are pains to get rid of, but that's where the beauty of sacrifice comes in. I'd much rather leave them with a colossus on the field than let there be a swarm of bears.The second something becomes a resource, the first person to weaponize dependency gains an almost staggering advantage.Scroll Rack really is something I need to work in. I'm thinking I'll get rid of Bog Witch for itm as while her ramp is nice, card advantage is especially powerful in this deck.
A full game using this deck involved me spending my turns by shifting 20 life in my favor via the Bogbrew package, and recurring it with Krovikan Horror, and Tortured Existence. Oh yes, I think I can grow accustomed to this.http://i.imgur.com/iZb4d.gif
That is precisely what makes Maralen so enjoyable in my opinion. Sure, she can grab you a quick infinite combo, and I'd be a fool not to run one or two just incase, but it is the other combos that you can grab that are so marvelous and genuinely /fun/ to use.
Precisely my thoughts as well. I may have found the strictly legal EDH deck I shall be using from now on, and even when I'm told I can use Witch-Maw, I might still use it because of how enjoyable it is playing this.
I forgot how much I love the artwork for Nether Shadow. That son of a bitch is so creepy and he knows it too.
It's such a shame that it was only the fifth edition art that had it so. If they ever reprint the Nether creatures, I'd like to see something more in line with that artwork(or in honesty /that/ artwork), but would probably only see the old one.
I like Maralen as a commander - yet I´ve not played a single game of EDH, but she´s just like; No. No more ice cream. I wonder if it´s because of her you didn´t include Skullclamp? Also, if you´re in dire need of land fall, the I highly recommend 'Ghost Town' from Tempest. That very same card helped me by being dual-purposed; LZ for recurring critters and avoiding a nuke (edit: Land Destroy) Do you know any archetype, besides EDH, where Maralen is the center of attention?
I have been pondering this deck as of late. I believe with the spirit and arcane spells you have on offer Infernal Kirin would be quite the boon. Just something to think about.
Infernal Kirin is one of the cards I originally considered, but I actually wound up dropping it. In a one on one situation I might use it, but in a multiplayer game the sheer spite of that card garners more attention than it offers use.
I can understand that. Playing Maralen alone brings about a great deal of consternation among your fellow players, so avoiding further ire might be a good play.