whats REALLY funny, is I thought that deck shouldnt have won SCGO, so I built it and ran it at an event last night, and its awful. if control gets to 4 mana, it loses. I went 1-3. the last time I went 1-3 was the RtR prerelease lol. CONTROL stomps that deck unless it gets lucky. Mono red is always pretty good after rotation, because its cheap and EASY TO BUILD.
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Chrono, go check out his decks. specifically, this one: http://www.mtgvault.com/aggropro/decks/red-deck-owns/then check out this one:http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=59589the guy bitches about how east control is to build, then steals the winning deck from the SCG open this weekend and trys to pass it off as his own...lol
dude, read the comments. i think this is the third time I have said that Master is not in here to MAKE tokens, he is in here to make them BETTER
both deck styles have merit. you coming here for no reason other than to insult someones deckbuild is childish and ignorant.
your comment makes you sound like a whiny little kid who cant win his local FNM because of all the bullys playing control. Control is here to stay, learn to deal with it in a more constructive way than bashing someone elses deck because you cant win a game.
I run Celestial Flare Main in most of my WHite decks, Glare is much more versitile, as it exiles a permanent, and getting rid of an Elspeth or Heliod seems like it could be pretty good.
its good for the mirror match to race to Jace and mill out some of their counters.
most people use Architect for the -2, and Memory Adept for the Mill.
most importantly, the ones made by Molten Birth and Young Pyromancer. that dude is awesome here.
holy shit people. he makes ALL THE TOKENS BIGGER
Master of Waves is not here to make tokens, hes here to BUFF tokens made by other things. any tokens he makes himself are just gravy. he makes pyromancer SO much better. boardstate = Master of waves/1 2/1 token, Young P and 2 2/2 tokens, 6 lands. you cast Molten birth, and get a 2/2 from YP, and you get 2 more 2/2 from molten Birth, 3 2/2 for 3 mana....seems good.
guttersnipe is unnecessary here. moar burns.
lol. cool story bro. you arent as clever as you think you are.
chrono must be about 16. you can just smell the childish arrogance in his posts. you clearly just want to talk shit. Im sure youre quieter in person. the internet makes such tough guys. I also said that HD didnt make the finals, dipshit. No one said Esper Control was a bad archetype, so youre just trying to create an argument that doesnt exist. What I find funny is how much stock you put in the FIRST tournament of a new cycle. a budget deck won. that should tell you all you need to know about the top 8. why dont you wait a few weeks before you start bragging up the merits of your favorite decks top 8s. Im over you.
I really like Yoked Ox in the SB. that card shuts off aggro for a few turns until they burn it out.
I think he was planning to see a lot of aggro, and its a 2 drop boardwipe against mono red in many cases, running many 2 drops itself. Edit: to be fair, Teitze should have probably won....lol
he was a heavy favorite. UW control should beat mono red. I posted a link to his UW control list in your UW list.
Max Tietze took second at the SCGO yesterday with this list. yours is already pretty close, might be worth a lookhttp://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=59587
lol. back to this? no.and red should not have won. Bertorelli had an easy trip to the finals. he beat Esper Control in the Quarters and Gruul Monsters in the semis, though he just outraces that match. the finals he didnt even have to play. his opponent got land screwed both games, having only one color mana each game. when you cant verdict turn 4 against Red haste, you lose. Doom blade didnt make the finals. neither did Downfall. no one cares.
because giving the opponent life is counterintuitive. your life total is a resource to you, just as theirs is to them . sometimes that 3 life (or whatever it ends up being) can be extremely relevant. I dont think I should be giving my opponent more resources to use against me at the cost of 1 mana. besides, the only thing you really need to worry about on T2 right now is a Lion. and he cant gain Hexproof until t5, maybe 4 with ramp. I suppose the odd ramped witchstalker could be a bother, but still not worth 3 life (4 if you play it in their turn)
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