Truth is...

by surewhynot on 19 June 2011

Main Deck (99 cards)

Sideboard (1 card)

Creatures (1)

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Deck Description

Seizan, Perverter of Truth EDH deck! WOO! Seizan is my favorite demon ever. He is exactly what demons should be like. Pay a price, get a huge reward =]

Also, this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJxsMo_N2pc

Deck Tags

  • EDH
  • Draw
  • Discard
  • Bleed

Deck at a Glance

Social Stats

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Mana Curve

Mana Symbol Occurrence

009600

Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Not Legal in Modern
  • Legal in Vintage
  • Not Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for Truth is...

Funeral Charm for an instant discard? Phyrexian Arena also seems like a nice choice. Sign in Blood on them while Underworld Dreams is out or yourself whenever.

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Posted 19 June 2011 at 11:01

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wow dood this is mean. i am calling it already, games with both you and arty with his maralen deck are going to be bullshit. :(

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Posted 20 June 2011 at 06:34

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i love this deck :p best mono color EDH i've seen

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Posted 20 June 2011 at 15:37

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Hey thanks man =]

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Posted 20 June 2011 at 18:41

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this really is a killer deck but did you notice that Cythe tiger was green....

any who, I know you guys are really great at building decks and I was hoping you might give me some advise on my green trample deck to make it better.

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=197788

sorry for not really being able to help you with your decks though. :/

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Posted 20 June 2011 at 22:00

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Haha, yeah. I'm using the Scythe Tiger as a placeholder for Scythe Specter until the vault updates. =]

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Posted 20 June 2011 at 23:38

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Nice, I didn’t figure you would have made an oversight like that. :)

I was going to suggest Necroskitter as a possible addition. ¼ for 3 and if a creature with a -1/-1 counter on it goes to the graveyard you gain control of it.

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Posted 21 June 2011 at 13:46

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real mean looking deck surewhynot. >=]
the only thing I feel you might want is replace Blistergrub and get more card drawing from Graveborn Muse

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Posted 21 June 2011 at 19:42

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Lashwrithe? probably not better than strata sythe, especially not if you have the tomb out, but still pretty beastly in mono-black.

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Posted 21 June 2011 at 22:05

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strata scythe is a staple card in edh for mono-color decks. even without something like the tomb of yawgmoth it will make a creature enormous.

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Posted 22 June 2011 at 00:44

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Not just that, but I like the thought of a couple scythes in a mono-black deck =P

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Posted 22 June 2011 at 03:53

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The Tomb doesn't pump the power of the Strata Scythe..Just sayin'.

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Posted 17 October 2011 at 03:00

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This looks like quite alot of fun. but what about temporal extortion? that seems really good for this deck, allong with damnation. and definitely syphon life and maybe runed servitor to pay for all the sac. cards, while still getting both draws.
hope i helped!

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Posted 22 June 2011 at 17:12

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It is a lot of fun, and strangely plays pretty similar to a regular Seizan deck. Those are all pretty decent suggestions, but I just don't know what I'd take out. Also, in some ways, Temporal Extortion is bad for me. In this deck I want to minimalize the damage I take from Seizan, and maximize the damage done to the opponent. By taking an extra turn, I'm actually potentially hurting myself more than helping =/

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Posted 22 June 2011 at 17:48

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@_@ This is madness! Makes me like Necropotence skipping my draw step, but dear God, you can even get around that!

Seriously dude, this is sick and twisted. I love it lol

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Posted 25 June 2011 at 22:40

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Thanks man. I love Seizan, easily my favorite demon, and one of my favorite cards ever. I had to find some way to speed up EDH, and what better way than to add a ticking clock? And then take that clock, and make everyone's faster than yours! XD

I think Animar might be even faster, but I still think I'll enjoy this one the most. In fact, I might make a normal deck to abuse the hell out of Seizan. =]

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Posted 26 June 2011 at 00:37

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I've seen regular Seizan decks, and they're sadly not usually as epic as for EDH :/

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Posted 26 June 2011 at 01:41

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Challenge excepted...

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Posted 26 June 2011 at 01:54

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wow, not many people actually realize that is a proper statement. Plus ten points to English!

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Posted 26 June 2011 at 02:04

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sign in blood it has same effect as leader and amazing mono edh like most of ur other decks

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Posted 26 June 2011 at 00:41

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Eh, I didn't have room for S.i.B. actually. =/

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Posted 26 June 2011 at 00:50

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Posted 26 June 2011 at 03:09

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well, just a suggestion is to add livewire lash to both this edh and your uril edh, reason being is so whenever you or an opponent casts a spell on your general, you get to deal 2 extra general damage, so lets say the bolt your general once and then searing blaze him, thats 6 [general] damage straight to them in one turn with no attacking (presuming you had livewire and no other buffs)
in your uril it would be perfect, beause of all the auras and other enchantments, so even if your opponents did manage to kill it when he had totem armor, they would have still took massive dammage, not counting the fact that he is most likely going to be ungodly/ungodly anyways. Soz if Livewire was already in ur uril, but I am to lazy to find it atm...

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Posted 26 June 2011 at 21:58

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also( same person) can you check out my edh?
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=191193

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Posted 26 June 2011 at 22:21

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you have to deal combat damage with your general, not just damage

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Posted 02 July 2011 at 00:30

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really? I thought it would be like infect or deathtouch, sorry for the super lateness of this comment, but I was gone for a few weeks...

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Posted 11 July 2011 at 16:20

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This deck is fantastic looking, everything seems solid for the format aswell.

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Posted 27 June 2011 at 14:50

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Posted 27 June 2011 at 16:25

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The commander cards without images are now on vault if you want to swap your tiger out :P

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Posted 29 June 2011 at 19:06

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Posted 29 June 2011 at 21:27

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Death's Shadow...Use it, just for kicks. C:

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Posted 07 July 2011 at 07:52

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Putting this together for some EDH this week/weekend. Let you know how it plays in my group. My current monoblack deck is fun, but has gotten a little stale - big fat fatties and reanimation can only take you so far. My Zur deck just gets me killed ASAP. Hopefully this will stay under the radar until it's too late.

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Posted 09 August 2011 at 01:13

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I love this EDH deck man, it's my second favorite after my Teysa one. Before your opponents know what's happening, Seizan suddenly reads "at the beginning of your upkeep, you get your ass kicked" =]

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Posted 12 August 2011 at 00:45

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Took out Despise, Praetor's Grasp, Inquisition, and Grave Titan.

Put in Oppression (pretty brutal), Butcher of Malakir (another Grave Pact), Sign in Blood, and Smallpox.

Maybe put in Dread as another No Mercy.

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Posted 25 August 2011 at 23:18

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I considered all of those to be honest =P

The problem is fitting everything I want to use in the deck...

Anyway, how'd it work for you?

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Posted 25 August 2011 at 23:43

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Hmm, looks like your list went down to 97 cards? Anyway, I was checking the differences, and should make a correction. I left the Grave Titan in and swapped the obliterator for the butcher (needed the obliterator for another deck).

Last game I played was a four player game and I ended up taking a lot of hate after an early small pox to kill another player's lighthouse chronologist (brutal). I ended up riding my lake of the dead to get out sorin to kill one player, managed to drop oppression, megrim and lilliana's caress and killed a second player with pox. Never had any defenders, so the final player just pounded my face in.

I like oppression in these circumstances, there's usually something I don't care about discarding, and every spell costs opponents 4 life - and makes people rage quite when painful quandary is out too.

It's also nice to have a fairly threatening enchantment out if someone is threatening the board with a wipe.

I always have trouble fitting everything into EDH decks. The other day I set out to build a GW deck and had so many white cards that I just turned it into monowhite :P

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Posted 29 August 2011 at 19:49

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Yeah, the one weakness of this deck is if your opponents figure out what's happening, you draw a lot of hate =P

I don't know why this went down to 97...I don't even know what is missing lol

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Posted 29 August 2011 at 20:29

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Posted 17 October 2012 at 03:15

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Sooooo...This happened =]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJxsMo_N2pc

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Posted 20 February 2013 at 10:17

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Look into Words of Waste + Geth's Grimoire. The only other thing I see that might be missing is Venser's Journal, I take that back I just looked up a card called Iron Maiden haha and that will be inserted into my Seizan deck the next time I am able to pick one up.

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Posted 08 April 2013 at 13:57

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I keep thinking this deck of yours would do quite well to have Erebos included.

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Posted 30 September 2013 at 22:10

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Already in there =]

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Posted 30 September 2013 at 22:18

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I had a feeling you were going to add him in, there are so many benefits to Erebos for this deck.

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Posted 01 October 2013 at 16:48

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I was thinking could you find room for a sword of war and peace? It seams like it would have a lot of synergy here.

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Posted 15 November 2013 at 22:51

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I suppose I could in place of Sythe of the Wretched, but I can't bring myself to do it =P

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Posted 16 November 2013 at 00:36

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haha, fair enough =)

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Posted 16 November 2013 at 00:37

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You should consider that new enchantment Hag for this and your Nekusar builds.

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Posted 27 January 2014 at 19:06

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Yeah I'm already making the changes to fit them in.

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Posted 27 January 2014 at 22:12

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Took out Sol Ring for Dark Deal. Always happy to see useful new additions =]

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Posted 24 February 2015 at 11:59

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What would you suggest to replace chains of mephistopheles, my wallet ain't that deep lol

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Posted 23 March 2016 at 01:13

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I'd suggest Necrogen Mists. That's about the best I can think of.

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Posted 23 March 2016 at 10:42

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I hopefully by tomorrow I'll have the last of all my cards to finish this deck. I'm not sure if I'm playing it wrong or what, but I have been getting CRUSHED hard online with it. And i'm somewhere around 50-50 in paper magic with it. Do you have videos of you using this deck? This is hands down my favorite commander deck that I've seen (haven't been playing commander very long at all and haven't played magic in a little over a year). It is very likely I'm just playing it wrong, or keeping bad hands, etc. But if you have anything on this or advice that could help me out, I would really appreciate it!

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Posted 30 April 2017 at 17:09

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If you're playing it primarily in 1 vs 1 games you're going to have a rough time. This deck is mostly for multiplayer EDH games, where it dominates. It's strength lies in that it can kill everyone around the same time. In 1 vs 1, it often won't have the same freedom to set up, especially against faster dedicated 1 vs 1 decks that can make use of the extra draws.

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Posted 30 April 2017 at 19:32

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What's weird is that I've won more 1v1's than multiplayer games with it so far.
Is there any chance you could upload some videos, would love to see you play this deck.

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Posted 01 May 2017 at 06:07

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OK, the last few cards arrived today! I now have this exact decklist in paper. Wish me luck and thanks for making this! :D

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Posted 03 May 2017 at 18:42

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