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I agree with most of what RisenDeep said. Without a clear endgame, this just looks like a bunch of fuel with nothing to fuel. So, before giving my 2 cent worth, I must ask: what's your endgame? Only once we know this can we truly work on the sideboard.

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Posted 04 June 2018 at 07:59 in reply to #615294 on Red Green Elves

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All worthy inclusions. Need to do some testing to warrant inclusion

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Posted 02 June 2018 at 07:43 in reply to #615258 on Dovoted to the Sun

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From my limited knowledge of the old wording of cards, what's printed on the card makes it sound like it's the Aura you sacrifice and the creature lives. Let's break down my reasoning by breaking down each part of the wording:

"You may choose to play Spider Climb as an instant;" this is the start of the confusion of this card's ability. This line lets you cast it "as though" it had flash. The next bit is the heart of the problem understanding the card.

"if you do, bury it at end of turn." We know that "bury" is now "sacrifice". Nowhere in this part of the ability does it mention the creature it's enchanting, so the "it" can only be the Aura itself.


I didn't notice the odd wording in the Oracle text untill you pointed it out. Thinking on it again, it's not wrong either. It's a complicated way to say you sacrifice the Aura. My reasoning is nowhere in the sacrifice clause does it mention the creature it's trying to enchant. Second reasoning: all non-land cards are spells, so "permanent it becomes" must be referring to it becoming an Aura once it's done resolving.

Basically it's a complicated way to say this:

You may cast Spider Climb as though it had flash. If you cast it any time a sorcery couldn't have been cast, sacrifice Spider Climb at the beginning of the next end step.

Enchant creature

Enchanted creature gets +0/+3 and has reach.

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Posted 01 June 2018 at 12:17 in reply to #615204 on spider tribal just to be gross

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Oracle wording for Spider Climb:

You may cast Spider Climb as though it had flash. If you cast it any time a sorcery couldn't have been cast, the controller of the permanent it becomes sacrifices it at the beginning of the next cleanup step.
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature gets +0/+3 and has reach

Additional ruling:
2009/10/01 - The sacrifice occurs only if you cast it using its own ability. If you cast it using some other effect (for instance, if it gained flash from Vedalken Orrery), then it won’t be sacrificed.

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Posted 01 June 2018 at 08:27 in reply to #615204 on spider tribal just to be gross

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A possible replacement for Serra Avenger, if it doesn't perform well enough. That do not cast clause is very restricting.

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Posted 31 May 2018 at 15:48 in reply to #615212 on Dovoted to the Sun

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Quest for Ula's Temple may interest you.

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Posted 31 May 2018 at 14:35 as a comment on The Rising Deep

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Always glad to help. Besides, I love tribal decks

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Posted 31 May 2018 at 08:30 in reply to #615161 on spider tribal just to be gross

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Awesome. Thanks ??

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Posted 30 May 2018 at 14:26 in reply to #615161 on spider tribal just to be gross

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Dam, I never thought of Assault Formation / Duran in a Spider deck. Thinking on it now, it seems so obvious.

Skysnare Spider might not benefit from Assault Formation, but it's a solid card. Vigilance on big green things is a scary sight indeed.

Swarm Yard might be worth considering too.

@Muktol
How does one link cards. Ian mentioned it before, but I forgot.

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Posted 30 May 2018 at 10:45 in reply to #615161 on spider tribal just to be gross

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I was working on a "mono" green Liege deck. Green's mana dorks is what I think makes that idea viable.

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Posted 30 May 2018 at 10:37 in reply to #615125 on Dovoted to the Sun

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Brave is a solid sideboard option. Not sure if there's space in the main deck for it though.
Angel is a great option. Definitely worth testing.

Thanks for the suggestions ??

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Posted 30 May 2018 at 10:33 in reply to #615162 on Dovoted to the Sun

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It was those suggestions that led me to Oversoul of Dusk as they're all part of the same cycle of cards. I even considered some of the Lieges from that block.

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Posted 29 May 2018 at 09:05 in reply to #615125 on Dovoted to the Sun

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Pauper is a format where you're only allowed to use cards that where printed as a common in at least one of its printings.

Manamorphose was a common in Shadowmoor
Flame Jab was a common in Eventide
Highland Lake was a common in Amonkhet

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Posted 28 May 2018 at 21:35 in reply to #613936 on Pauper Storm

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Problem with Curiosity is it's not Pauper legal because it has never been a common.

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Posted 27 May 2018 at 07:19 in reply to #613936 on Pauper Storm

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"Currently mill is a fringe-deck" and the main reason decks like this can exist. Always going to have bad match ups, it's the nature of the game. Leyline is a good hedge against Mill and discard (like 8 Rack, etc), so while some of those are fringe scenarios, how many Leylines in the sideboard will depend the player's local meta.

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Posted 25 May 2018 at 05:28 in reply to #614974 on GG Belcher (Modern)

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Don't know abut any earlier ones, but about a month ago Wedge (the Mana Source on YouTube) brought a deck very similar to this one to everyone's attention. It came to my attention when I saw videos of Corbin Hosler (TCGplayer) playing it on TCGplayer's YouTube channel

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Posted 24 May 2018 at 16:13 in reply to #614974 on GG Belcher (Modern)

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True. Could split them to cover both efficiency and Chalice.

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Posted 24 May 2018 at 06:20 in reply to #614981 on GG Belcher (Modern)

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Nature's Claim might be better than Seal of Primordium. You don't exactly have a benefit for Seal of Primordium being an enchantment and Nature's Claim counts towards Spell Mastery for Nissa's Pilgrimage. And the 4 life is meaningless when you're Belching for 35+ damage.

Also, you probably know this, but didn't mention it: Obstinate Baloth is awesome against 8 Rack :p

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Posted 23 May 2018 at 14:58 as a comment on GG Belcher (Modern)

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double up on the meme

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Posted 22 May 2018 at 16:31 in reply to #614938 on gutter snipe meme

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Firebrand Archer is a {1} cheaper, 1 less damage veraion of Guttersnipe

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Posted 22 May 2018 at 13:59 as a comment on gutter snipe meme

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