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Ghostly Prison would accomplish arguably the same thing as Propaganda. I gotta be honest, the more i think about it, the more i want to try the G/W version i suggested.

Yeah, I love Thoughtseize! The downside is that it is very easy to over spend life with a Necro deck, especially how i have this one built. Play testing is allowing me to strongly consider adding it in, but I need little more testing, with only 4 Consumes, sometimes I run little lower than i did in previous builds. Still, it might be finding its way in soon.

Looks right! Im not convinced youd really need the Darksteel Plate, though. Sure its great protection for the Obliterators, but with so much control, hes going to be able to do his own thing without too much incident anyway. A draw mechanic in its place could be more beneficial.

Ive got a casual MBC deck that you could take a look at for ideas, heres the link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=345027. Thanks!

Not sure Browbeat is modern legal, i dont believe it was ever printed in the new format. Im not convinced you need Chandra here, either, though a second one in place of one of the Browbeats youdd be losing might be the better alternative, perhaps its the "one of" Chandra that seems out of place. Slith Firewalker could be a phenomanal add here, though, for its speed and amazing strength with burn protection/control.

Hope these ideas help. If you could, im looking for some added feedback to my Black Hole deck ( http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=345027). Anything you coukd suggest would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Browbeat would work here. It will give you some flexibility via the potential card draw or cnsiderable damage for 3 mana (2 if tied to Sunforger). Arid Mesa would also be a solid play to help deck thinning and fetching a mountain when needed.

Hope these ideas help. Should you get a moment, i welcome feedback on my Blsck Hole deck ( http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=345027 ). Thanks!

Nothing wrong here. Of course, I seldom expect there to be issues with either your or White's builds. Putrid Only is the only thing you could consider here, though Careful Study kind of addresses that issue. And, i dont know about you, but Underground River wouldn't be a terrible play here, either. Granted you can't fetch for it, but youre likely Delta-ing for a Sea so just having another coloring chance would be viable.

Hope this helps. If you get a chance, I've 'finalized' my Black Hole build and would love your insight (http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=345027).

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Don't mean to spam....

But even with elves this might be than do-able. I forsee. Timberwatch Elf and Taunting Elf working in tamdem with Karona's +3 making it more painful.

Worldly Tutor.... Stupid phone.

I'm thinking green/white with the following cards:

Channel the Suns - one of each color for 3G,
Fog/Moment's Peace - damage prevention,
Orim's Chant - prevent spells and attacks,
Isochron Scepter - imprint with Fog/Moment's Peace or Orim's Chant.

Green will give you remarkable acceleration as you know, Channel the Suns just brings the remarkable utility you'll need for Karona. Even Workstation Tutor to fetch her and Enlightened Tutor to get the Isochron to give you a way to avoid her damage every turn when imprinted correctly (both Tutors could be imprinted on it as well). Even Swords to Plowshares for protection, targetting her while you control her gaining you life and therefore preventing the exchange.

What are your thoughts? If you get a chance I welcome any feedback you could offer my Black Hole deck ( http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=345027). Hope these ideas help.

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Browbeat could be a fit here for you, better alternatives than giving your opponent cards or having to discard; though, you're not necessarily guaranteed the cards since your opponent might elect to take the damage.

And, maybe I'm blind, but where is the blue mana come from for Metamorphose? Were you thinking Metamorphosis, which is green from Arabian Nights/Chronicles?

The only other concern I see is the low likelihood if having a green mana producer for that first turn Fastbond. You might consider City of Brass or Karplusan Forest just to increase the coloring. Alternatively, Crop Rotation could get you any land, though its Restricted (as is Fastbond, but I'm assuming this is casual).

Hope these ideas help. Should you get a moment, I welcome any comments or criticism you could offer to my Black Hole deck (http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=345027).

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Well, keep in mind that Enlightened is restricted in vintage and banned in legacy, so you'd only ever need one. That might make things a little easier to swallow.

You might want to consider adding in Orim's Chant here. It's one of those cards that screams White control, it would fit here nicely.

I'm not convinced at all that you really need the Armageddons. Even with Crucibles, I think that your focus might be better suited worrying more on the basic control over a total drudge match. Granted, removing the Crucibles would also totally change how the deck would play, so I don't know.

I agree with the increase to WoG, that can usually never be a bad thing. Or at least an Enlightened Tutor should you need some utility or some search for one of those artifacts or an Oblivion Ring.

Perhaps you could take a look at my Mono Black build (http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=345027). Similar to this, it has that control thing going, but of course with the black spin. Still, I really like this build of yours, definitely something to try out.

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The only thing holding you back here is speed. You kind leave yourself pretty vulnerable in the event it takes you some time to get things together. If legality doesn't matter (as in, you're not worried about staying modern), consider Enlightened Tutor and Mystical Tutor. Both will help you get a valuable tool when needed. Alternatively, cards like Orim's Chant work AMAZING on the "Stick," that will buy you TONS of time.

Hope these ideas help. Should you get a chance, I'd appreciate any feedback you could offer to my Black Hole deck (http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=345027). Any comments or criticism would be great.

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Please note that Mystical Tutor is banned in Legacy.

Otherwise, you have the right cards in the right place. The only thing I question is the lack of Dark Ritual just for the shot at having a first turn:

Swamp / Rit / Entomb / Exhume

Even late game, Rits can be helpful as they can leave some mana open for you to use some draw during an EoT phase. Three could easily take the place of the Mysticals that make the deck banned. Otherwise, Diabolic Tutor could replace the Mysticals so that you have some sort of search.

Hope these ideas help! Sorry I had to break the news on Mystical. If you get a chance, I welcome any feedback you could offer to my Black Hole deck (http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=345027). I'm trying to make it as final as possible so I can have a casual deck done and done, if you know what I mean.

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As awesome as Bonfire is, I question your use of red in this build. You might find that the playability here will become easily handcuffed to the three colors. Rather, you should find a tremendous reliability change by shaving red out of the picture all together and instead work U/W. White can give you some removal in the form of Swords to Plowshares (assuming not modern or standard) while blue can open the door to you for some more counter and draw.

Further, Isochron Scepter could be a fantastic add to this build with the right modifications.

Hope these ideas help. If you get a chance, I welcome any feedback you could offer to my Black Hole deck (http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=345027). Otherwise, I have a casual U/W build where you might find some interesting utility that you may be able to implement here.

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You might consider running Thirst for Knowledge or Thoughtcast for some draw with all these artifacts. Trinket Mage might work, too. Of course, both of these would require you to add blue.

By the way, are the colored artifact lands banned in Modern? If not, Ancient Den should be here to help the early Affinity creatures.

Hope these ideas help. Should you get a chance, i welcome any insight you could offer my Black Hole deck (http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=345027). Any comments or criticism would be much apppreciated.

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Definitely up my aisle. Might a suggest Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and some type of card drawing mechanic that isnt the Font, Sign in Blood, Promise of Power, Necropotence?

If you want some other ideas take a look at my Black Hole deck. It, too, wss creatureless...then they made Obliterator. Heres the link, maybe we can help each other out: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=345027.

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Drum, I must say I think I like the idea of you going the route of Triskelion full time. I know the feasibility isn't that easy, but using it as a kill condition is so classic! I love those 'dick' moves!

But, aside from that, I'm surprised to not see the use of Tutor here. You could even consider Mutilate or Damnation as a sideboard alternative (or one of in the build itself with Tutor help) as a defensive measure.

Beyond that, very creative, nice job!

I've been off site for a while, but have rebuilt/organized my Black Hole deck (http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=345027). If you get a chance, I welcome your thoughts with the latest changes. Your words on my decks in the past have always been positive and I appreciate your comments and criticism.

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Wow, sorry I wasted my time on you then.

And from the looks of it, you don't look at much. The site needs more conceited, selfish assholes like you!

God this looks fun! These are the decks I like to see, something completely out of left field that is unlike what 99% of what the community is doing. nd, you even know how to properly play Cunning Wish, GREAT spread of options in your sideboard! Grats man, I'm sure this is a blast!

Should you get a chance, please take a look at my Black Hole deck (http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=345027), I'm trying to finalize it as to check one off the list, if you know what I mean!

Thanks!