JMorgan13

ummm.... you're kind of missing 8 cards. You know that right??? Can't play with less than 60.

To be honest, I think using 13 mana is stupid personally. It opens you up for getting mana locked. I know you have a lot of cheap creatures that make mana, but what if you don't get those ones? What if you have 2 mana cards in your hand and never get a second mana? I personally WILL NOT use anything less that 20 mana. Regardless of what deck I'm using.

Check my elves out.
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=230286

Thanks, check out the rest of mine

That seems a little fat fetched ded :P

all you need is boon reflection babe and you'll be set

Oh god I know... I wish I had treachery. Basically mind control but free?? Ridiculous! If I get it I'll def switch it into this for sure. Thanks for the reminder of it though!

Before any of you say you have a problem with the number of cards in this deck, look at my mana curve.

Honestly I don't like anything based off of the hawk and the mystic. I think it's pretty cheap. When 7/10 of the top magic players in the world use the same exact deck, pro tours kind of just bore me anymore.

Bitter Ordeal seems nice, but you'd have to use it in a pretty good combo or it's going to be wasted I believe. Nice card though. And doomsday? Why the hell would anyone want that? It seems useless to me unless you were running suicide decks, and those are boring in my opinion.

Plus, if mana EVER becomes an issue, I can easily drop a death baron and one reaper.

I run 60-64 cards and only 21 lands standardly. I never use more than 21 lands. It makes me feel like I wasted a slot for something much more valuable. I've never had mana problems with my decks so the 21 mana structure works fine. The reason for 62 cards though is because the warchief makes the zombs cheaper. Basically makes them 1 or 2 mana.

trolling? Shut up guy. You clearly don't know what haunting echoes does either. Not every deck has to be standard ready. Most people just play for fun you dunce. And with all those discard cards, haunting echoes would make this deck.

A little too many cards here Teri. Try dropping some of the more exspensive cards numbers, like monomania. Maybe drop some un-needed cards as well.

Clearly if you want to just "extract" them to death, you need haunting echoes. Easily. That card clears a library faster than any black card.

Why yes, yes I will put that in there >:D that is very dirty.

Instead of Angel Song in the Tyler, try batwing brume, or ethereal haze. One is cheaper, and one does more than just prevent dmg.

I like this deck a lot Tyler. The whole draw death idea is really cool. My friend Kyle has a card you might wanna look at. Forced Fruition. If a player plays a spell, they draw 7 cards. That instantly pops the owls ability. And you might wanna look at the card Venser's Journal so you can have any number of cards in your hand and gain life for them all. Or the land that gives you unlimited hand size. The fruition though is a must for a draw death like this.

I've played with this deck many many times. It's lots of fun. I've gotten this combo off almost every single time playing with it. If they counter my elf, I have more, or I have all that mana ramp stuff.

That glimpse card is $17 xD

you gonna put your decks online Ty? Check out my friend's decks too. SpyFellow is his name, and my gf's username is lenore_tcldg