You don't have to tell me about tool boxes! :P I'm a toolbox fanatic, but all the same, modern is very different from the standard I was used to. I would very much so like to build my deck around fauna shaman, but the thing is, she dies to a LOT of things in the format, and is sometimes just too slow to really be of any good. She's in there because she's a HUGE threat, all the same, and she couples nicely with all the other huge threats in the deck. (: I would make this more tool-box-e, but i'd rather make it so that it can function as both toolbox, and a reliable deck without the shaman. I took out mindcensor, because the matches he was good in, were already ones I pretty much won. I replaced him with thrun because I always found myself wanting one, but I may replace thrun with a fiend hunter, or mangara (i love that suggestion, thank you very much!!) I changed the board, however, to fit my meta. I pretty much lose to storm, so I added the leylines, and rdw is a cheap deck that can hose my ass. So I prepaired accordingly. Also upped the baloth count for the aggro loam match up. twin is actually a match up I'm favored in, believe it or not. I smack down a thalia, they're hurting. And also the pridemages are reallllly good against it. And out of the sb I bring in another pridemage, coupled with linvala and spellskite, and we're cooking (: I'm glad you like the deck! AND OH, the bog thing, yes I wanted more bogs board, but that's why I added a vesuva to the main :'D it's essentially having 2 bogs and 2 steppes (: tech
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not exactly... it's because I'm running fauna that I feel 4 is what's up. I play 1 hawk, I now have 3 in hand. Which, if I'm not running vines, means 3 reasonable pitches for tutoring purposes. Even with vine, 4 is definitely where it's at, seeing how he depends on creatures. I feel it makes perfect sense.
ou... sphinx is tech o.o i love vengevine. it's just too good with shaman, and also in this deck, bloodbraid pretttty well guarantees a vengevine recursion. hawk is, imo, a 4 of or none of :/ thalia isn't solely for storm, she's jst all around good. like vs twin, rdw (kinda), any control deck, and she just doens't hold me back at all. she's really good (:
godddddamn hahahaha my friend was on my account... i didnt even notice. foook
Why thank you! This deck is actually fairly favored against gifts... assuming it's the tron version, for that's the only version i've tested against. I can just completely outrace you, run over your iona, and in the chance you choose elesh norn, hopefully i've either assembled a nice army of vines/kotrs to be able to blast past, helix for the win, or path you out (: hawks are kind of awkward. I mean, with vengevine, they're god-like, but vengevine can get clunky. I might cut him to 2, and in that case, may totally cut hawks. For what? I'm not sure, maybe steppe lynx of goblin guide (being able to cascase into a hasty bro is very nice), but ultimately I'm still unsure. In the main I would like some answers for storm/ascension. That's just a horrrrrible matchup. I may add the 4th thalia, just because she's that good v.s. so many decks out there. And on the topic of elesh norn (further up) I may add a 1-of phyrexian metamorph. Also, thrun is a card I'm considering, highly, alongside loam lion/guide/steppe lynx (mainly lynx because the kotr interactions/fetches galore are really attractive). Also, with a landbase tweak magus of the moon might be a valid option. This deck can just go balls deep, lol. Opinions?
maybe i've been playing WAY too much modern, but why no ravens cry/crime (or whatever it's called)? love the list, man. If I had the cash, I'd be allll over aggro loam in modern
aven mindcensor is so goood :) mainly she's in there for the gifts/tron matchup, or even if i see another fauna shaman haha. burning tree is so gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood,hahaha. especially vs twin (: for twin i have a lot of answers, and i tried to keep them all different so a rune snag couldn't just blow me out completely. like i have linvala, spellskite, krosan grip, burning tree, and qasali (: also arena really helps.
changed it up (: hows it look? thanks though, man! (:
sink hole is so irrelevant here. basically you have a legacy deck, and unless your game plan is bent on trying to destroy theirs, sink hole is really only setting you both back. You waste a card slot and a turn trying to destroy a land, they get set back a turn (same as you). Umm... demonic tutor isn't exactly legacy, but you could easily make it legacy by removing it, and adding 3 more brainstorm. Which make counterbalance better, too. Jace should be a 2-3 of. bitterblossom and jitte seem off, here. I mean, I love them both, but I think in this deck you'd be better off just splashing green for goyf and sylvan library than to try and go to jitte/bb route. you deff need min. 20 land. no fow? no daze D: come on, community. you're running blue, D:
well, honestly, that depends on the caliber of decks you're testing against. Don't get me wrong, I love heroes, and hellrider, but if this deck is built for speed, you probably aren't going to have much if the majority of your opening hand is 4 drops. Then, you plan to hit a land drop each turn, with only 1/3 of your deck being land? It's just not practical, man. Trust me on this one. It's essentially pointless to run any 1 drops at all if you're aiming to hit 4 drops. You're trying to combine a solid opening with a mid-range strategy.
14 4 drops? 20 land? man, with 20 land drops, you probably can't even afford to run 4 drops, let alone 14. drop all 4 drops but the hellriders. add 3 land, then whatever else under 4
Why would you try and combine infect with non infect damage? if you get them to 6 infect, then need to start working at their actual life, that whole 6 infect has just completely set your plan back... angelic destiny cant hit up a crusader, which makes it fairly lame. sorry man, but this is not even close to the best home for sorin.
woah... man... it's a card game. why use such hateful language over it? :S I'm not saying I don't use the word. I mean, I curse like a sailor some days (lol), but I can't see using such harsh language over a card game... and the front page of a site dedicated to said card game, at that.
Thank you guys! Sorry I don't respond very often, or check any of your decks, for that matter, but my computer crashed, so I only have my ipod for internet :/ it's a TASK commenting, and even more so making a deck... so sorry guys, but I can't really critique any decks lately :/ it's not that I don't want to help, it's just too tedious. Sorry guys :(
...where did all this deck's comments go? how in sweet jesus did this get on the front page?
thank you very much! and happy stomping to you as well :)
@blakroc nice deck man, is it for modern or just casual? and @swn, yeah, rdw designs now are like... meh, chandra's phoenix kind of delivers some resiliency, but as the game grows late, as does the difficulty to win
hahaha thank you both!
oh that's been done! :O there were a few list called RW tokens, using kuldotha and what not, but honestly, it seemed a little... weak, per se? Like, yes, kudlotha was great, but that was before timely reinforcements and sword of war and peace... you know? Plus I found they were very much like tempered steel - they either got the nut, or lost. But I'm very glad you like the deck! And I'd be very interested to see a kuldotha list with hellrider from you!
Thank you very much! I'm glad you like it ! (: There were a lot of different ways to go about it, but I figured this way was the one most optimal for a) my playstyle b) my meta and c) hell rider just seem to be a total blow out on top of the speed of tokens. I'm not sure how well this'll work, but here's for the best, lol. also one of the few decks I've made without a reference list! So far, seems as though nobody's tried this style of tokens.
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