Nekusar Paindraw

by MindrazerofAngmar on 19 February 2015

Main Deck (100 cards)

Sideboard (24 cards)

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Deck Tags

  • EDH
  • Commander
  • Multiplayer
  • nekusar

Deck at a Glance

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Mana Curve

Mana Symbol Occurrence

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Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Not Legal in Modern
  • Legal in Vintage
  • Not Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for Nekusar Paindraw

too many cards 99 main deck
1 commander(we normally put them in the SB.)

Why not use wheel effects:
Windfall, wheel of fortune, wheel of fate, dark deal etc?
They work great with cards like Megrim/lilly's caress/waste not.
Also dream halls is a card you may want.

Also rooftop storm seems awful, not enough zombies and it only gets around the first cost of nekusar, you still have to pay the additional 2 each time.

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Posted 19 February 2015 at 20:50

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It's pain-draw, not discard themed, so your suggestions don't work. I tried most of the cards you mentioned, and decided to cut them in favor of others.. I "just" put the deck up, so I'm still cutting a few cards. 1 to be excact. Rooftop storm is awesome with my commander and Thraximundar, as well as Havengul Lich.
I am well aware of how Commander works, and the patronising tone is not appreciated.

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Posted 19 February 2015 at 21:34

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Okay, the deck is finished now. :)
I want to clarify that effects like Windfall works very well in the deck, but I wanted to focus more on permanent card draw. One win con in the deck involves Inner Fire and Prosperity/Minds Aglow in order to force everyone to draw themselves to death. Another reason is that I am considering adding a Warp World to the deck, which would work much better with fewer instants and sorceries.
On closer consideration, Dream Halls isn't a bad suggestion. However, I like that my opponents are forced to choose between paying mana to ward off Phyrexian Tyranny or casting spells, and I don't want to give them a way to easily bring down their hand size when I get Price of Knowledge out.
Do you have any suggestions for permanents and such that helps facilitate card draw?
Cards that helps me avoid attacking creatures and board controls are also welcome.

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Posted 19 February 2015 at 22:02

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There is a card, which could help you a bit - however it is kinda' boom or bust...

Check out "Copy Enchantment" from Ravnica (the old one) - it could become a God, or 'just' another Dictate, Propaganda or what-have-you ^_^

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Posted 19 February 2015 at 22:06

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That's a good one! I run a whole bunch of enchantments after all.

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Posted 19 February 2015 at 22:11

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Sure, man =) I'm glad if I helped you out

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Posted 19 February 2015 at 22:20

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If you're going for card draw what about Temple bell+Mind over Matter? It's an infinite card draw engine. and once it is in play it's really hard to beat because you can just discard another card in response to hate.

I mostly play dream halls because it allows me to chain wheel effects and when paired with library of leng it can lead to very fast wins.(but I do play omniscience, enter the infinite and lab maniac in my list)

My list(not the one on here that one is REALLY outdated) is more focused on Wheels than just discard or draw.

Another card I have seen some lists play but I am not a huge fan of is hive mind, forcing each opponent to cast a wheel effect ends the game fast.

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Posted 19 February 2015 at 23:27

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Wow, I hadn't thought of those comboes! Mind over Matter + Temple Bell is brutal.
Doesn't Library of Leng only work when you're forced to discard? Does it work with Dream Halls which is a cost?

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Posted 20 February 2015 at 00:19

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Leng works whenever you have to discard, wheels that say discard and not something else work.
Leng doesn't work with dream halls, its being able to free cast a wheel with dream halls and place another wheel so you will draw it again/repeat for tons of damage.

Yep it's such an innocent looking combo at first, then once they're both in play it's almost impossible beside "split second" artifact/enchantment hate. If they don't have that they literally need enough hate equal to the number of cards you have in hand.

My main reason I like dream hall is because once my hand fills up all my counter spells are basically force of wills with an up side:P

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Posted 20 February 2015 at 02:42

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I looked up the Library , and it doesn't work with costs: 10/4/2004 You can't use the Library of Leng ability to place a discarded card on top of your library when you discard a card as a cost, because costs aren't effects.
That's what you're saying, right?
That is a truly cruel combo!
I'd hate to wind up against that one xD

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Posted 20 February 2015 at 11:18

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I never said you could, I was saying using library in tandem with wheels.
Dream halls just lets you cast the wheels for free because you can use library to hold onto Wheels+1 card that shares a colour with them.

I dunno, it quickly became my favorite card in commander haha.
Even with out it library is the nuts.

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Posted 20 February 2015 at 15:03

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It really is a combo enabler. Also works well with tamiyo, the moon sage.

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Posted 20 February 2015 at 15:51

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Looks good, my friend ^_^

The Commander usually inhabits the Sideboard - it makes it easy to distinguish who's The Boss ^_< and also gives an overall idea of what the deck does.

Since I've seen this in action, the only question I have is; How is your Mana Fixing working? See, mid-page, far-right, you can see the Mana symbol Occurrence and it shows:

{U} : 48 - {B}: 33 and {R} : 15

But the number of Mountains and Swamps, I think, needs switching - that is, if you get mana starved, the Mana Symbol Occurrence is not a bad tool to help the deck along

Still a bad-a** EDH, good job and a +1 from me ^_^

Since you're new to the site, if a deck gets "liked" it turns up at the start page, under "Active" - the more Active the deck, the more advice and help you can get =)

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Posted 19 February 2015 at 21:35

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I've made some edits in an excel file, but it takes time to edit the deck 1 card at a time. Is it possible to clear the entire main board so I can load them in again?

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Posted 19 February 2015 at 21:41

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You could delete the deck entirely and start from scratch, but other than that, you'll have to delete every card, you want to switch :(
Sorry man

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Posted 19 February 2015 at 21:49

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master of the feast and fate unraveler would be good additions

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Posted 19 February 2015 at 23:01

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Seconded ^_^

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Posted 19 February 2015 at 23:05

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I recently built a nekusar deck you can check mine out if you want
http://www.mtgvault.com/vaan104/decks/give-us-a-hug/

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Posted 19 February 2015 at 23:08

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Fate unraveller is on the list of awesome cards! I just need to figure out what to take out. They actually both spent some time in the deck, but I found that it didn't do enough, and was vulnerable to removal. I want my opponents to die in their own turn, not mine ^^ I will check out your deck. I like the title; I usually my deck as group hug gone bad ^^

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Posted 19 February 2015 at 23:17

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