This is true and may be my best option. I hadn't thought about that card but I guess if it comes out before Vampire Hexmage comes into play she can keep hexmage from being able to sacrifice. If he goes 1st and gets hexmage out on turn 1 then it is pretty much game over unfortunately. I have seen him swing with it on turn 2 a few times, its almost too damn good. turn 1: play dark depths then play lotus petal, sac it for 1 black mana, play dark ritual and then Hexmage. turn 2 swing with a 20/20 indestructible flyer. :-P Any input on how I should do the sideboard to include the needles?
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Ha ha she definitely loves to play burn partly because of that reason. She actually got hooked on it playing with a vampire deck I had and then she went to a zombie deck. She likes burn though when it comes to playing in a competitive setting because she doesn't have to know the weakness of the deck she is playing as much and can more or less let the deck play itself unless she hits a snag, then she can change her strategy accordingly.
lol sorry man. My girlfriend is badass. Even I was a little surprised at how fast she took to Magic, she even got another of her friends to start playing. She is getting pretty good at it and caught on to it a lot quicker than me! lol
Not a bad start but I think you are missing some needed cards. I also don't think you need to focus on proliferate as much and put more stuff with infect in. Proliferate is usless if you can get the poison counters on them to begin with. Using Ichor Wellspring as a draw is just a bad ideal. You would be way better off preordain or if you just want something to sac to throne run Ornithopter because at least he can block and he is free to play. If you are running black then you need Plague Stinger in there, next to Blighted Agent hes the best infect creature. I think you could come down on your land card a bit and I would try Plague Myr instead of Perilous Myr. Good luck with the deck. Linked below are two of my infect decks if you are interested. Black, Blue and Infected Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=183887 Icy Infect Control Evilness Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=185531
No problem. Deck looks really great now. Well balanced and pretty quick.
Looks like a lot of fun for multiplayer. I have a few cards for you to consider. 4 Leechridden Swamp would work perfectly in this deck. Also maybe 4 fetchlands to thin your deck down and help you draw cards you need in the later game, something like Verdant Catacombs. With the life gain I doubt you will worry much about the 1 life loss. Exsanguinate may also have a place in this deck especially if you back it up with something like 1 or 2 Cabal Coffers. Good luck and nice deck
Looking pretty good. I have a few suggestions. I think you could live with 20 lands since your mana curve is so low. How about -8 mountains and +4 Sandstone Needle. Replace char with Flame Javelin or flame rift and replace volcanic hammer with chain lightning or lava spike. Nice deck, good luck!
Looks great but I have a few suggestions. I would sideboard White Knight unless I am playing against black and add 4 Knight of Meadowgrain because he is better against any deck not running black. I also think that since you are running 4 Knight of the White Orchid you could be okay with taking your mana count down to 20. That will leave you room to add in at least 2 Leonin Skyhunter. I would consider taking Kinsbaile Cavalier and maybe Hero of Bladehold to add in another 2. I would at least side board 4 leonin skyhunter to give you protection vs flying and give you another way to push damage through. Good luck
Looks nice and I like the concept. Only suggestion I have is to get your mana curve down a bit. I know you have lots of creatures that make things cheaper but I would personally lose a few of the biggest. How about replacing True conviction and Celestial mantle with 2 Preeminent Captain to give you another way to get out your biggest soldiers, he also has 1st strike that he can share with Concerted Effort. Good luck I also would drop arrest in favor of something like Path to Exile or swords to plowshares.
Looks great. You just need to trim the final 3 cards to get to 60. How about take out sword of war and peace, 1 day of judgment, and one land because I think you have a pretty nice mana curve that can handle 20 lands. Great knight deck though. Check out my legacy knight deck if you like. Knights who 'til recently said "Ni" Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=145980
Looks great and looks like a really painful deck to play against. I personally would run less traumatize and a 1 or 2 more haunting echoes just because it works well with so many of your other cards. Good luck with the deck!
When I first saw reverberate I thought it was awesome. However after playing lots of games with them I found my self holding reverberate in my hand a lot and not getting use out of it. Most of the time it was better to draw a damage dealing card instead of trying to double a spell. Reverberate takes 2 cards in hand to deal damage and most of the time spells my opponents play aren't worth copying. I still think reverberate is a great card in some decks it just doesn't seem to run that smooth in a straight burn deck. Thank you for the comment!
Looks pretty good. I have a few suggestions for you to consider. Personally I think Fire Servant is too expensive to work out. I tired to run him for a while but ultimately I decided Quest for Pure flame or Pyromancer Ascension is a better option. I also think that Reverberate is a bad card most of the time especially if you are running cards like fireball or Red sun's Zenith. I am honestly not a fan of running cards with X casting cost in a straight burn deck. I think they work better with creature based decks that can afford for the game to last longer because it they have higher defense. I have messed with a lot of different burn builds and have learned a lot on the best way to play them. If you are interested I have linked below the best build I have came up with yet. It is very capable of winning in 3 turns and has lots of turn 4 and 5 wins. Fastest Burn II (Legacy) Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=187825 Good luck with your deck.
Looks really nice. I was skeptic when you said you had a blue and red burn deck but it looks like you have pulled it off nicely. Looks like a very consistent deck. Only card I am iffy about is the goblin Guide and I would personally replace it with flame rift or magma jet but either way great deck. Good luck!
Thanks for the help it has been really nice bouncing ideal back and forth with people. I would love to see your burn deck, if you ever post it let me know about it. I agree with a lot of what you have said and have built a new build that I think is the best so far. I have linked it below and would love to hear your opinion on it. Mogg are still good, just not as good as they once were. They can still put the fear in someone running a lot of creatures with 1 toughness and cause hesitation in the early game. But I have decided to take them out of my newest build since I am running quest again. I personally didn't go with Volcanic Fallout just because for a 3 mana spell i really want it to be as devastating to the player as possible and most flying creatures are within bolt range if they are a real threat. I ran 2 barbarian rings for a while but my girlfriend hated them after losing by 1 life a game or two and then lost one because she couldn't sac them to Fireblast. I am trying a lot of fetch lands to improve card draw in the build right now but I may have to prune them back a little after she gets to play with the deck. Thanks again for the comments and my new build is posted below. Fastest Burn II (Legacy) Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=187825
I haven't tried mana acceleration and for the most part if you don't have many creatures or other permanents to play that stay in the game I think they are a wasted card. But having said that you may be able to pull out a win a turn quicker with the right cards in hand. Either way this deck doesn't need anything else to hurt its consistency. Quest for Pure flame is a mixed case. If it is in your opening hand or 1st card you draw you will probably win. Its the only card I found for a burn deck that makes a 3rd turn win possible. This deck was made to be played in a casual tournament with insanely fast combo decks where turn 4 or 5 was too slow. Because of that this burn deck had to be the fastest possible. It worked out pretty well but you need to get a good draw or mulligan until you find a quest for the pure flame or have a hand full of lightning bolts and chain lightnings. Leyline has the same plan in mind. Its awful any other time than opening hand but when its out it makes a turn 3 much more possible. Keldon is a great card that I feel goes very well in most burn and mostly follows the rules of burn but gives just a little defense. Keldon will do between 2 and 5 damage and is especially great with Quest for the pure flame all for 2 mana cost. I totally agree about Ball lightning but it can come in great in some cases or is you have something like mimic vat or Incandescent Soulstoke to back him up. I have a new deck posted now that I feel is a much better deck and is much more consistent check it out if you like its linked below. Good luck with your decks. Legacy Burn Revisited Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=186017
Looks really great and really quick, did a few test hands and got lots of turn 3 wins, great job. The creature count is a little low but it doesn't play out too bad. I would consider dropping a Livewire lash or two and a groundswell or two and run a few preordains just so you can get some card draw and can help make sure you dont draw into a bunch of buff cards when you need a creature or vise versa. Really nice deck! Good Luck!
I like this deck a lot but I completely agree with MagicLango if you cut white and black this deck will be even better. How about replacing Oblivion Ring with something like Echoing Truth and replace virulent wound with something like preordain. That should make this deck even better imo. Nice job and good luck!
Personally I would sideboard your Sword of Body and Mind and Sword of War and Peace and run a argentum armor and Batterskull. I think the best sword for this deck is Sword of Feast and Famine so I would keep that in. If you cut anything else look a 1 or two of your most mana expensive cards like Day of judgment or Hero of Bladehold
Looks really great. Only suggestions I have are that a set of dark rituals would fit nicely in here to help speed things up. Also I am not a big fan of Rakdos Guildmage and I think maybe a better option would be Goblin Deathraiders or maybe even the Avatar of discord as suggested above. Other than that nice job and good luck.
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