BasilicaNero

Uuuumm... I kind of don't deal with it. Probably put a pariah's shield on other things and hold them off 'til I get Pestilence, I guess. Or if they have a particularly big wither-er I might throw a Guilty Conscience on it.

That and Exile kind of kills the combo, but hey, can't beat everything I guess.

um... what? They will be at 0 life. In 1v1 they have lost. In multiplayer,that player will die, and Stuffy doll will no longer have anything to target. The loop ends. Game continues with remaining players. You don't need to wait for their next up keep or anything, that's mill decks, if they can no longer draw they lose the game. If you have zero life, you're done.

Also if youre argument is that the stack never ends and therefore can't resolve then that is also wrong I think: each part of the loop needs to 'resolve' for the next part to activate. When enchanted creeature DEALS damage. When Stuffy Doll is DEALT damage. Eventually there is no one left to damage and the loop ends.

I do have a question about Order of the Stars. If I'm playing against Red, so I give Order Pro-Red, and my opponent attacks. Will the Pro-Red protect it from the damage redirected to it by any en-Kor I control?

I considered him strongly, but seeing as how he is mildly conditional in that I NEED to discard a creature when I play him (even when I play him from the graveyard) I felt Arrogant Bloodlord would be the better 4/4 (to survive Nameless Inversion and become the 7/1) in the end, especially late gate. And even the fact that Bloodlord dies easily if they have 1/1s isn't a bother because it just triggers Gravepact and I can get him back anyway. Also the thought of using Mercenary to discard Haakon if I drew him was part of why I considered him, I instead decided to use the one mana spells that make a 'target player' discard, so I can use them offensively once Haakon is in the Graveyard.

Thanks for commenting!

Very fun. +1

Thank you! It was un to make and is great fun to play! Which is really what makes or breaks a deck for me to be honest. Plenty of great near unbeatable decks are annoying or just plain boring to play. This definitely isn't! Thanks for taking the time to look!

That would work... plus I think a few of the old Innistrad curses activate on Upkeep (the black and blue milling ones come to mind).

Wow I hadn't realized Paradox Haze stacked! this deck just got even more annoying! :)

As far as reality strobe, yes I try to not have more than one cycling at a time, but because it can return lands I pretty much always have something to unsummon.

Thanks for the suggestions!

Exactly. What he said. It's the combo that made me decide to build a Haakon deck actually!

Thank you!

Awesome use of Landfall :) +1

I thinkI would only use it in a multiplayer match honestly, so Blood artist is probably better in that regard at the end of the day....

Nice! I have a special place in my soul for a good old fashioned zombie deck. +1 I'm curious: is having all the one-offs and not many multiples for flavor, preference, or some other reason?

Ooh another cool old card I haven't bumped into before! Seeing as how I can already play all creatures from the graveyard to play and everything cost 3 CMC as well (or less) I'm not sure it fits this particular deck but it has given me an idea for another one. Thanks for the idea!

Thank you, and thank you for letting me pick your brain!

HOLY SHITSNACKS Urborg Justice! Its like Chainer's edict with Storm! That's Spectacular! I'm not sure I'd want to run 4 in place of Bone splinters though maybe just two and something else with less conditions.

Of those suggestions skullclamp or blood artist stick out to me. Would you recommend taking out a/the bloodlord to make room or something else?

And thank you, I am often accused by some of the people I play with of overthinking what goes in a deck so I appreciate that comment.

Wow, thank you for taking the time to actually thoughtfully reply. I'm not saying my way is right at all, and I'm seriously considering some of your suggestions, but Ill see if I can explain some of my decisions.

The Cry of contrition are in for three reasons: they are way cheaper in real life (at least when I first made the deck, not sure about now) and they don't make me reveal my hand when discarding Haakon, and if using it offensively I like haunting their blocker and they need to decide if its worth letting it die or something.

I like diabolic intent a lot, I search for Gravepact and Buried alives or just Haakon depending on the situation. The other one is can find phyrexian Tower and the sac synergizes well. Even if I get it later in the game theres always something worth searching for whether its another buried alive to fill my graveyard of the second gravepact.

But if I was to through in some High impact one offs any in particular come to mind?

I had never head of the Anvil, it's an interesting idea (unless playing with someone who benefits obviously) but I'm definitely going to play around with a proxy or two!

As for the Skellies, apart from my general love for them :) I prefer 4 of them to grave crawler because they have no requirements to come back from the grave yard, and they can block. essentially My first Buried Alive I grab Haakon, Grave Crawler, and whichever zombie knight I feel is most useful that game. Then using the gravecrawler and phhyrexian tower I start cycling through the sacing. (the other factor when making the deck was money cuz skeelies are quite cheap)

Bloodlord is in over some others for two reasons, him dying easy helps gravepact and hes one of like two knights for 3 cmc that can survive the Nameless inversion making him a 7/1.

Oh and I think you missed it but I do run 4 Stromgald crusaders btw.

Bonesplinters is also where you're very right. The thing I really don't like is the sorcery part. But when I have a gravepact, gravecrawler, and a tower out (usually have that all by turn 4 or 5) I then tap tower sac graveawler, add BB to mana pool, use B play gravecrawler, use B play bone splinters sac gravecrawler, destroy target creature. For tapping one land they sac two and I destroy one. Its a brutally cheap board clear. But youre right, for spot removal it sucks. I rely on Nameless inversions for that kind of thing and that can get expensive depending on how big the creature is :/ I really should look into better spot removal no matter how attached to the above combo I am.

Also your Anvil deck (thanks for the link) is spectacularly awesome. +1 from me! I love the use of the old cards (I play with a younger crowd who have never heard of anything before Innistrad it seems so bringing out the ass kicking from the past is always satisfying). I really enjoy how your deck makes the absolute best use of the Anvil.

Thanks again for taking the time! Any big one offs come to mind with good synergy to this deck?

I go to bed and when I wake up suddenly its on the Hot page (no idea how) and the comment section makes less sense than a cat's logic! Is there a full moon or something? Thanks for the likes to those who do, and some of these comments ... just wow.

I've played this in a variety of environments, both casually and in a couple Vintage tournaments with a decent degree of success. Regardless of whether won or not, it's still super fun with good combos and flavor. I'm interested in anyone else's take on this kind of deck and whether any alternative card suggestion come to mind!