Jessie

http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/i-just-passed-a-kidney-stone/

Done.

Kept it mono red. Check it out if you want. Or not.

Questions: Between me and Puschkin:

Me:

Another question.
I have Kurkash out.
I have Keening Stone out.
My opponent has 10 cards in his graveyard.

I pay 5 mana and tap Keening stone. Plus I pay 1 mana to Kurkash to copy it. What happens?
Does my opponent mill 10 cards for each spell?
Or is it 1) Mill 10 cards for the 5 mana and 2) Mill 20 cards (since 20 cards would be in the library because of the first mill)? for the 1 mana?

In other words, Would it Mill my opponent 20 cards or 30 cards?

Puschkin:

30. It's two separate effects that resolve separately as if you would activate 2 Keening Stones.

Posted by wickeddarkman:

JESSIE:

If you want to timewalk with your ld I have just the suggestion:
Timesifter. With the manacosts in your deck it will be nice and will give you timewalking more often than my R/G gives me when I sb it. I use timesifter against decks that have better creatures than me or random fast stuff like burn. If you want to experiment with it, you should really add the elvish spirit guides to your deck.
Heres the "link" to my deck...
http://www.mtgvault.com/wickeddarkman/decks/you-cant-counter-that/

Posted by berndttoast:

Some cards that I can think off off the top of my head as far as artifacts go:
Lux Cannon
Contagion Engine
Titan Forge
Magistrate's Scepter
Trading Post
Mimic Vat

I'm sure there a slew of better ones, but these were ones I could think of off the top of my head.

Other good ones:
Armillary Sphere
Burnished Hart
Contagion Clasp
Isochron Scpeter
Oblivion Stone
Power Conduit
Phyrexian Processor

I can definitely see a proliferate based Kurkesh deck. :)

It is shameful...considering I call myself a fan of Urza.

From Puschkin:

Cards to add/consider:
Snake Basket
Grinning Totem
Barrin's Codex
Altar of Shadows
Shell of the Last Kappa
Phyrexian Furnace
Lotus Bloom
Prototype Portal
Urza's Blueprints
Planar Portal
Dreamstone Hedron
Armillary Sphere
Jester's Cap (ouch)
Phyrexian Processor
Thought Dissector
Helm of Obediance
Life Chisel
Rakdos Riteknife
Predator, Flagship
Elixir of Vitality
Quicksilver Amulet
Helm of Possession
Sword of the Ages (BOOM!)


Now let's see if you'll finally have a deck with lots of one-ofs, too ;)

No problem. I have no problems with you deleting the comments, after I have commented on them. I, actually, would recommend that from time to time.

As of right now...trying to add both of our ideas together. Give me a day or so to work around with it.

Yep, 45 cards milled. Not as fast as blue: Tome Scour/Mind Sculpt and the stuff...but damn impressive for millstone/grindstone (without Painting the town red via a scarecrow) style decks.

Even if the opponent only has 5 cards in his graveyard:
First mill with Kurkash/Keening Stone: 15 cards milled
Second mill: 45 cards milled. Game over.

Basically, opponent will have 2 turns to remove Kurkash/Stone or the game will most likely end. Splashing green, as Puschkin recommended, will get me get search engines and cards that bring back stuff from my graveyard. You nuke my Kurkash, and I bring him back with Noxious Revial...or Reclaim.

http://www.mtgvault.com/puschkin/decks/puschkin-please-help-me/

Send some love to Puschkin...he has helped me out a lot on this site.
I do not want to look dumb posting decks that do not work, so i have to make sure of the rules and if my crazy ideas or combos i want to try actually work.
I have asked him (and others like Kazzong and KnightoftheHokeyPokey) several questions, that he has answered, before I have made many of my decks.
Some of those decks have been well received by you guys at Magic Vault.

I have Kurkash out.
I have Keening Stone out.
My opponent has 10 cards in his graveyard.

I pay 5 mana and tap Keening stone. Plus I pay 1 mana to Kurkash to copy it.
Had to ask to make sure...but what would happen would be this:
For 6 mana, my opponent would mill 30 cards into his graveyard.

If my opponent has 15 cards in his graveyard and I pay 5 mana stone and 1 mana Kurkash...it will be:
45 cards milled.

Regardless...we are talking 2 turns.

So...rough drafts...
Thran Weaponry/Meekstone mid game
Keening Stone/Kurkash end game.

The colors (red or red/green) that are going to be played, as well as seeing how many "stone" cards I can fit in, as well as filler cards that gets copied with Kurkash are questions up in the air. If I go green I am losing some of my "stone" cards but I am gaining speed and mana ramp. Keening Stone/Kurkash aren't cheap when it comes to mana.

Definitely a possibility.
Puschkin and I are brainstorming now.

I passed a Kidney Stone a few days ago. In honor, I want to make a deck with as many "stones" as possible. I was thinking:
Thran Weaponry/Meekstone combo
Weakstone/Meekstone combo
Sandstone Needle for land
Wall of Stone and Flowstone Wall both walls for blocking.
Stonehands to pump up my creatures or enchant opponent's creatures to make them stay tapped via Thran Foundry/Meekstone combo.
Worn Powerstone for mana ramp.
Use a bunch of Kobolds or Ornithopters to escape Thran Weaponry/Meekstone combo (if i keep Weaponry tapped).

Finally, Win condtion: Keening Stone plus Kurkash. Those two cards...we are talking 2 turns and opponent is dead. Milling 30 and 40 cards at a time.

Lots of stones, huh?

Puschkin pointed out that i can keep untapping Weaponry during my upkeep...and just tap it again at the end of my turn...thus making me run Kobolds/Ornithopters/Walls with power of 0 not necessary.
Then suggested green splash for mana ramp, instead. It would reduce the number of cards with the word "Stone" in them...but probably would make it more secure. Then add cards that draw/search/ramp with the help of Kurkash to double the effects. I am thinking maybe some Baubles.

I am working on it.

It will be called:
"I just Passed a Kidney Stone."

Sounds very solid...but maybe away from my theme...I am trying to run as many "stones."
Your idea has me at 8 stones, max. Does away with my Red stone walls. The Stone lands probably would need to be removed. Maybe the Weakstone too.
Did you see Worn Powerstone? It could make it up to 12 stones. That is a respectable amount of Kidney Stones (hell, one hurts just enough).

I kept changing what I wrote above...so you may of not seen the updated part about Stoneheads, And something like flowstone blade kill my opponent's creature.

With red/green...i could do maybe, some baubles? Wayfarer's for mana (put in two tapped lands) for 3 mana (if i pay 1 with Kurkesh). And Mishra's Bauble could draw me two cards if i pay 1 with Kurkesh).

Okay...if you ever brought this deck against me, I would kick you in the balls, and rip the cards up. Pure douche deck, for sure.
That said, love it!

The Mirror combo with Shahrazad...ugh. Jeez.

I was thinking as much...I might add them all to the deck...and start taking cards out.

Another neat idea (sorry to rant...when i come up with ideas that i like...i start ranting and raving)...would be the kobolds/thran weaponry/meekstone combo..if my Kobolds/Ornithopter are all 2/3...I could throw down stuff like Pyroclasm to wreck havoc. All of my opponent's weaker creatures are killed...and his larger creatures can't attack unless they want to remain tapped.

Does the Keening Stone/Lodestone Bauble idea seem possible? I know stacking cards back on the library is sorta against the idea of mill...but putting 8 land cards on my opponent's library (on top)...while nuking all the stuff he has on the board...it could halt the game for him.

Speaking of Lodestone Bauble...I could add Stoneshaker Shaman (another "stone") to the mix. Each turn everybody has to sack a land. So...stall the board with Meekstone/Thran Foundry/pyroclasm...and just keep nuking lands (untapped)...then play Lodestone Bauble and make my opponent have 4 land on top of his library. Since all of my stuff is free and/or remains untapped (via Meekstone) and my opponent's is not...lands will be more vital to my opponent. Issue would be untapped lands...and no mana burn. They would just tap all of their lands.

Another Idea if I play with Thran Foundry/Meekstone. Give my Stonehands (starting to see a theme here, lol?) to my kobold and pump him up and attack. End of turn, his power is reduced back down to 2, and I can untap him (he will escape the power of 3 offense and Meekstone). Or...put it on my opponent's creature!! If he attacks, I pump up the creature before his next upkeep with power of 3...and it doesn't untap (via Meekstone)! Or give one of my Walls Stonehands. Nuke any of the opponent's creatures that try to attack. It is great late game mana use if you topdeck (looking for stone cards that let me draw) and have loads of mana lying around.

This deck may indeed...to fit all of the "stones' and ideas into it...maybe be a 1 and 2 copy of cards sorta deck.

Of course this deck is causal...all of these combos involving 3 and 4 cards to work (as well as a lot of mana).

And Sandstone Needle for land.
Maybe Sunstone/Snow lands (though that would definitely be against having a lot of mana for Kurkesh/milling).

Mana ramp like Seething Song, maybe, to get the flow going. Or maybe better, Worn Powerstone (stone...in the name). With all the free mana stuff...I could afford to lose my Turn 3 to play it. And assuming land drops every turn, Turn 4 would give me 6 mana. That is Keening Stone on Turn 4.

Maybe...if I play Keening Stone...play Lodestone Bauble...once several lands are in the graveyard...to stack my opponent's library (top of it) with lands...like Plow Under idea. With Kurkash and Lodestone Bauble...you would put 8 land cards on top of the opponent's library for 2 mana.

Very cool. Maybe play kobolds/free 0 power creatures...hide behind Thran Weaponry and Meekstone.

See...I just passed a damn kidney stone (a wonderful first time experience for me, three days ago, still sore as hell). And want to try and do a Kidney Stone deck. Use as many cards with the word "stone" in the name.

Thran Weaponry/Meekstone shuts down creatures 3/3 or greater. My Kobolds, being 0/1 (or Ornithopter/Shield Sphere/Wall of Stone/Flowstone Wall), will be pumped up to 2/3 with Thran Foundry while all my opponent's creatures (if they are 1/1) will be pumped up to 3/3 or greater, and will not be able to untap if they attack me.

Plus throw down a Weakstone/Meekstone combo (along with my walls and kobolds with chump blocking)...now all creatures power or 3 or greater won't untap (via Thran Weaponry) if they attack me...and all creatures with power or 2 or less will have their power reduced by 1 if they attack me (via Weakstone). Let Weakstone/Meekstone/Thran Foundry hold my opponent off while I get Kurkash and my milling stones to running.

Maybe I am trying to put too many stones in the idea.

Thoughts?

Another question.
I have Kurkash out.
I have Keening Stone out.
My opponent has 10 cards in his graveyard.

I pay 5 mana and tap Keening stone. Plus I pay 1 mana to Kurkash to copy it. What happens?
Does my opponent mill 10 cards for each spell?
Or is it 1) Mill 10 cards for the 5 mana and 2) Mill 20 cards (since 20 cards would be in the library because of the first mill)? for the 1 mana?

In other words, Would it Mill my opponent 20 cards or 30 cards?

Another question.
I have Kurkash out.
I have Keening Stone out.
My opponent has 10 cards in his graveyard.

I pay 5 mana and tap Keening stone. Plus I pay 1 mana to Kurkash to copy it. What happens?
Does my opponent mill 10 cards for each spell?
Or is it 1) Mill 10 cards for the 5 mana and 2) Mill 20 cards (since 20 cards would be in the library because of the first mill)?

In other words, Would it Mill my opponent 20 cards or 30 cards?

I actually remember a few friends of mine calling Older Rush decks Stompy (again, Mirage stuff) and the newer (back in 2000) Rush decks Stampy. I am kinda confused now. Doesn't matter. You get the point. Since you are good at Stompy decks, how does this one do? I am not really good at Stompy decks. I think my better decks are bounce decks.

May I suggest you look at my friend's multiplayer discard deck. He actually uses cards that forces everyone INCLUDING himself to discard all of their cards. He hides behind Ensnaring Bridge, after he does so, and kills everyone with his Guiltfeeder and Nihil Stone.

http://www.mtgvault.com/magiccontroller/decks/meanest-multi-discard/