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I'd have to say the art that fascinates me the most would have to be Exhume from Urza's Saga, or on a less creepy note the Coldsnap edition Snow-Covered Swamp :D

As is yours Stillmoon, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for telling is that Linvala's post is the most helpful, and informative post other than your own.


Also, @Edna; I can see how you might not need the Predator as much as I do, I'm still trying to figure out MWS, and so far on there the most popular thing must be Countertop or my luck is just stupid... I'm thinking the latter...

It's standard, I don't really know it it's good or not anymore. I honestly gave up on the format entirely. I'm giving up on extended after Alara rotates probably, I don't like Zendikar block, and somehow doubt I ever will.

I really can't say, I just know extraction is possible in standard right now, and my friends run Tezzeret decks right now, why? because they actually made them from scratch.

Marrow Shards= http://www.myfacewhen.com/389/ , but for standard it's awesome. I think, I've lost touch COMPLETELY with it.

the extraction vs. storm MU is BULLCRAP! I missed a turn two combo kill because I got my wish dazed, and extirpated... Then they Iso-seeked my tendrils on their turn... Not cool with that, not cool with it at all.

Yeeck, I dread only one final, and that's English. I can USUALLY convey my thoughts rather well, but I have never liked the structuring of it... I prefer Deutsch from what I've learned so far, but I have difficulty there with the pronunciation...

TL;DR=I want to change my English to Deutsch for finals.

Nine times out of ten, it will be better, but with the off cases like Dredge, it hampers more than helps.

Also, the list seems to have been improved with the increased threat package you've got. How're you liking the Predator?

The usual dredge deck runs about 14 lands, non of which are fetches, so really it's better to make the fish matchup better by running Darkslick Shores. In dredge you use a lot of rainbow lands as well, but if you go the U/B route instead, Darkslick Shores is the way to go.

It also gets around things like Choke, so unless the dredge player wants to run a playset of Daze, they have no real reason to run stuff like Underground Sea.

There are a few good decks that actually are improved with the lack of the old school duals, Dredge in particular has amazing results, and waaay more interaction than a lot of people credit it with.

Psssssh, if you're smart enough not to try and cram a playset of the wallet sculptor into all your decks you fit in :P

Seriously though, I think you're going to enjoy legacy, and this seems like a neat way to break into the format from standard. I think I'm going to have to look into this 'Team America' stuff.

Glad I could be of a service for once, usually you make standard, where I have NO idea what I'm doing *_*;

here's a creature to think about, Llawan, Cephalid Empress. Four mana, UU. Shuts down Bant, and fish, while bouncing threats like Inkwell/Stormtide Levithan, and Progenitus.

I'm not really all that familiar with team america, I'm more of a Canadien Tempo person when it comes to that sort of thing. But from the looks of it, I think you should consider Trygon Predator.


Also, I just don't know how I feel about Probe here, if the deck usually calls for Street Wraith it's a major upgrade, but I think it should be mostly restricted to combo, or Bant. Like the deck though, very interesting design.

Arty sounds a bit like our shopkeep in reverse, he plays affinity for his casual deck, and let's just say things aren't pretty when he busts out the vintage version... Turn one I got hit for thirteen... Because he spread the love around the table.

I also rarely get to see a prison this good, so it would be a very interesting match I agree. I'd very much enjoy the chance to play the 'seven decks', but alas, I am poor. Right now I'm out FoW, and Brainstorm notably, but if I get hired I might actually shell out for them.

I do indeed mean the Gitaxian Probe. It costs one blue, or two life, shows you the opponents hand, and cantrips. I've been testing it in my rather off-kilter storm deck, and it works like a charm.

For Aggro, I really don't see much use for it, perhaps maybe in Bant? I really think it's a card more geared towards the Spiral@#$% decks, and Storm because it essentially functions as a GOOD Street Wraith.


Also, it doesn't surprise me that this deck doesn't lose much in the vintage version, but if I get a good hand I think the World Gorger/Animate Dead deck would do the trick. I do very much believe it would be a massively uphill battle.

However on storm, I can see him beating ANT, as I seem to be the only person who still has difficulty there; but I don't really see ANYTHING in this deck other than Orim's Chant and Trinisphere to stop mine from functioning. I will say this Arty probably is a great player, but in the legacy mode, I just can't see him winning unless my hand is absolute crap.


I mean no offense to this person by that, the vintage version would DEVASTATE my decks, but the legacy mode presented here just doesn't have enough ways to deal with it to me.

It's land base was like TES or Dredge, but smaller... It played out like you'd think, but it worked.

I think I've seen... Three counting this... One wasn't a stompy though, it was a ten land zoo... Mind$#@% to the nTh degree man.

If my friends uncle let me borrow his vintage deck, yeah. If using my legacy decks, or me making a vintage deck? Not a chance.

See man? THIS is why I have storm! Which btw, I tested the probe in more slots, and it's amaaaaaazing.

Back on topic, prison... This would be pretty freaking obnoxious for all of my decks, and it's amusing.

This is pretty good Joe, and unique in that I haven't really seen anybody try to put Soul decks into Extended.

I do however think you should consider Hex Parasite, fetchable by the Ranger, and a nice way to control planeswalkers/ratchetbombs/ect.

D'oh! I hadn't seen them in the sideboard.