NinjaStyle612

Emrakul isnt a "him"

this deck seems to have a lot going on....feels like there would be consistency issues

its casual. If you look at the VERY first comment on this deck, I suggested answers to aggro/midrange. I personally feel like the only tribal deck that is worth playing right now MIGHT be warriors, as they currently have a ton of tools, but I also think that people should experiment and build, I currently have 2 decks built that win, and I dont know why, because on paper, theyre terrible.

I mean, yeah, thats why its not really viable, but that doesnt make it bad here.

I mean, at that point, youre still not taking turn 5 off, youre just finally doing something.....

and as far as Ugin, theres already a pretty good 2 card combo that does that.....Basic Mountain + Lightning Bolt. I dont think any combo deck is trying to Ugin Ghostfire anyone...I like the card, but its not good for that deck, imo

you arent taking t5 off if you have an early game. you play xenegos on t5, pump an existing dude, then t6 play atarka. the competitive relevance of this deck is not what the conversation is about, imo, as this is clearly not tier 1, and instead just appears to be a fun tribal build. Ugin is terrible in Temur combo, as it kills all of your pieces, which is exactly the opposite of what you want to do. Besides, once you start going off, you dont want to stop at 8 mana, you just want to make an infinite/infinite genesis hydra, find Nylea, and win. (that deck is sweet)

UGin is an excellent planeswalker, it just requires a different kind of deck. like the green devotion decks or the constellation decks currently being piloted by the Pantheon guys and Brad Nelson at the Open this weekend. He may be better in Modern, ad an alternative, or partner, to Karn, but that has yet to be seen.


you dont need to take back your downvote, the system is a bit of a joke, which is why I dont use it, I appreciate the sentiment and kind words, though.

see, its funny that you downvoted me based on as assumption as your downvote didnt come from me.

Xenegos/Atarka is a combo kill that happens out of nowhere, it is not winmore, its a way to catch back up in a game that is otherwise lost. Crucible does not do that,a s it requires more than two cards to be good.

I built a Soulflayer deck for my brother to play tonight, and he had a blast with it. it is, in fact, a Sidisi/satyr Wayfinder version, and, for a deck that we threw together in a half hour this afternoon, was very competitive.

again, Xenegos (God) + Atarka = 24 damage in one swing. it can win out of nowhere. There is plenty wrong with this deck, but Xenegos is not among the problems

Xenegos + Atarka 24 damage in one swing.......you should probably try to figure out WHY something is in the list before you dismiss it.

how do you stay alive until you can do stuff? even midrange decks need an early game....I would run Hornets Nest as like a 3 of to stop the ground game while you durdle around building mana.

like, I understand how it works, it just doesnt seem good enough to take up 4 slots in a "real" deck. if youre making that many tokens, youre likely winning anyways, and theres no reason fr a cutesy combo kill. at 3 mana, this card sees 0 play competitively. Its a gute trick, and might be better than Trumpet Blast effects for the exact scenario you detailed, but even trumpet blast was relegated to the sideboard of mono red aggro..

it works well with Grand Master + Instant, but it doesnt really do anything, since the mana has to be used in combat. Its the kind of card that could be very popular casually, but unless the tournament scene gets a very good mana sink, there is just no reason to play it

the buyback for SGM is 4, the CC of DR is 3...thats a total of 7 CMC. you are making 8 mana.......sure, you can go infinite during combat in your scenario, but you cant pump until you pool a good amount of mana, because you are only netting (r) each time you do this......

I mean, its worth testing out, but its just a dead card if you dont have a dude. probably just better off with something thats always damage

eh.....OK at best... I dont think that card is very good, too situational

hes meh at best. the deck draws enough cards that it wants wizards with additional utility. Arcanis is great as the general of his own deck, but the way most Azami builds go, there just isnt room for a 6 drop wizard, especially since Mind Over Matter just draws your whole deck from the same CMC slot.

Titan Strength is actual trash here......the only thing it enables is rare turn 2 9 damage plays, and those dont happen very often in dedicated Swiftspear decks....

or, you could just ignore decks that are CLEARLY not standard, and get on with your life, instead of crying about it

Casual play is the only reason Vexing Devil is holding value right now. last I saw it was something like $8, which is crazy, but there are more casual players than all of the organized formats combined, so it makes sense