demonking28

awsome deck hmm maybe could use voracious dragon in the sb. the onlything better than death by gobbys, death by dragons lol.

well this is a very interesting idea. but it needs a lil more focus to really make it insane.the deck needs to loose 20 cards first of all. ur mana curve is insanly high as well. i would drop some land to maybe 24 or so depending on prefereance. a blue deck normaly wont need more than that. u also lack some counterspells to get ur fattys out. personaly to focus more on the chanceller, i would deff make room for some jace's errasure. u have a lot of draw cards which means everytime u draw, they will be milled. just some ideas for ya.

seething song instead of surge. in my oppion it lets the deck have more opptions with seething song vs geosurge.

yah should be amusing to see her hit the board

just a thought but the new lilana would be a lot of fun in this deck. a constant edict XD

uhm wow mana curve is really high. deff should drop a few dragons and other various cards. its not that bad, just way out there. a few draw spells could make this alot faster.

actualy if u could make the room for it, it might be of great use for this deck. especialy since saps tend to be slow with the spore counters. i think 3 of gilder in the deck could be useful. but thats just me.

i agree u could make those changes just to make it 60 but personaly i like the deck as is. if anything the tides could be moved to the sb but really it looks good imo. i like it

yah the wellspring was a last min couldnt think deal. i might put sign in blood in for it instead havent decided yet. sure ill take a look at em.

>.> ok so like doesnt anybody relize this deck has been tweeked a lil from time to time but its always the same deck by heart... and it makes playing no fun especialy when most of these cards have been banned/restricted. yah its a wicked deck but pointless in the end.

well honestly the deck is really slow anyways, most sap decks r. i have only seen a few that move fast. the reason for losing most of those cards is ur mana curve being through the roof and to loower the over all deck count. coat is a great card, but think of the down side affect being if i use elfs, or rats or even eldrazi tokens, i get the power boost as well. u dont really win in that situation. the over all changes i suggested can make the deck run a lil smoother and as well as faster. if anything u can move those cards to the SB and just sub in when u need them.

whew ok well u need a lot of tweaks, first suggestion is to drop the following cards :

coat of arms, sporoloth ancient, 1 mycolyth, bramble elemental, savage thallid,and fungal behemth.

i would deff add in 2 more sprout. if u also take out the verdant embrace, u can add in a few overrun which is way more abusive. i have a friend around here that uses that combo and it just kills. hard to block multiple 4/4 trampling cratures.

ok so to use both ur shrine and the typical twin combo i would suggest the following changes:

see beyond out maybe move to SB and 2 more prob.
possiably swap out the boilworks for scalding tarn, searching ability to thin the deck out.

the only other change i might make myself would be some tezz gambits they r amusin and in most tournament decks these days. just a thought. u could even consider a couple jace, memory adept for the SB i would agree that topor orb would be a pain, maybe play a couple shatter in the SB as well for that match up.hope some of this helps a lil.

not a prob and thx. i like the way ur deck has gone ur r right its one of a kind and diff from other dstorm. its no fun to have a bunch of net decked duel decks.

yah i have been thinking about that. i might could drop two of each whelp for at least 2 speakers, not sure though.

well this has become way popular since i first posted on here. congrats on making the upcoming list. here is a mono red dragon deck that i made a while back might give u some ideas, btw Jiriki its not always the case a dragon deck uses Dstorm, the one below doesnt and is fairly consistant.


http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=223301

thrumming stone?? door to nothingness???

well its not a bad start. personaly fog isnt needed in the deck, neither is kargan. i would maybe drop one of each sarkhan as well. just to make it 60. to really use dragonmaster outcast i suggest mana ramping like rampant growth and other cards. especialy with bloodghast being in the deck more land pumping spells would make this alot of fun.

ok soooo my personal opppion is that the dragon is better than marshal. he can be more versatile as u said and most of the time ppl see that marshal and its blown up asap. if anything i would move the marshal to the sb just to keep it around. u could make ur mana curve like u r suggesting, i would suggest even droping at least one burrow making it a total of 15 mana. might run a lil better for u. hope my imput helps ya.

i agree with prizak, i like the deck but idk about having zero basic land cards. that usualy will back fire on most ppl. its always good to have at least a few basic lands. thats just me though.