raggedjoe

Explore. Definitely wanna run Explore. I think you are a bit too heavy on duels too. I think J2N should leave, replaced with Tumble Magnet or Condemn maybe. My issue with T2 Bant is you don't really have great spot removal, RUG is better right now IMO. Plus it let's you run 8 Fetches. I would add Wall of Tanglecord to the sb for Caw Blade

My only issue with Crusher is his CMC. I spend 4 mana on cards that win the very next turn.

Thanks man! Ive been wondering about MoE, but I don't think I can support any more 3 drops and Etched is usually better than MoE in my experience. Pro colored is sweeter than you can imagine until you start using this deck competetively. Sick with Basically everything

My bad... 421 turns, not 321. Wins T4-5. It has a decent combo matchup post board with all the hate I can bring in. I do not feel this deck is very fragile, quite the opposite actually! Why do you think it is?

Mhmmm. A "good" hand with this deck is rather insane. I once got what is definitely the best possible hand before (on play):
Tezz, Tomb, 3 Mox, 2 Ornithopter

I grabbed a third Orni with my T1 Tezz and he resigns before his 1st turn

Goldfish wins average turn 3-4 (I did 100 hands, total turns=321). Combo decks are a relatively good matchup, between Canonist, Theropy, and (depending on the deck) Revoker, I find we can slow combo down noticeably.

The issue with Frogmite is that after turn 3 you rarely will be swinging with him. I feelhe just sits there in too many games. For Disciple, I think it is often a dead card, as the best spot removal in Legacy exiles dudes and if I dont have Ravager, Disciple often is useless. On speed, see above.

I don't know about you, but I see Wasteland everywhere. Additionally, Citadel survives a broad range of things from Grip to Energy Flux to Shattering Spree to Deeds. Really marvelous. I run only 2 Vault of Whispers because that's all I need. I don't need much B

I doubt he would be any good. Once you draw Relic, you are just waiting to draw Shape Anew and win, so focus on that. BBB might be a challenge casting anyway, and he is dead untill you draw Relic. Have you thought about Forsee for more draw?

Sure thing! I'll check it out

Any criticisms?

Very interesting idea. If you are going to use Inkmoth, you will need either more Blightsteel or no Relic... Right now Shape Anew on a Inkmoth has a 50% chance to hit Darksteel Relic. I don't know if W is the best color to use here... B gives you hand disruption and removal, both spot and mass. I think B is a better option, with maybe 3 BSZ and some amount of Disfigure/IoK/GftT. Jace might be worth a spot, even if it's just baby jace to kill OP jace and for CA.

Huh... Interesting. Really? Ulamog? What other W cards do you run?

Well that really depends on the list. Post it?

How much other ramp do you have though? The thing I really don't like about him is that you gotta wait a who turn to use him.

If you can't beat'em....

Hahahaha thanks man! MUD actually doesn't stand for anything, rather it refers to the mud-like color that artifacts used to be. Any comments/criticisms?

Metal worker is baaaaaaaad in Stax! Maybe you are thinking of MUD Stompy? This deck is lock first, win later.

I considered W for ET, but I feel that MUD is more powerful. I get to run the best utility lands in Legacy, including a 8 land disruption package precisely because the deck has no colors. Also, I have so many lock cards, fitting Tutor into the deck is actually a challenge!

Tanglewire is a boss, as long as you remember to not tap Trinisphere that is!

Hahaha good luck with that. Won't help you much vs a good opponent :P

I meant something more like Dragon Stompy style deck. But it's a little harder than I thought... Check out my newest artifat deck: MUD Stax

Thanks man! Still not 100% happy with either list though :/

I wonder what else I can do with artifacts... How about Metal Stompy? That sounds fun

Thought about Edge, but it really isnt worth it... I wanna nail a finisher through at the 1st chance, don't want to worry about color. Also, almost all the mana I need is B... Very little colorless