Hahaha thanks :) What do you think of the deck? It seems bizarre, but it is surprisingly consistent. Very powerful and few fast.
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... That's the point of control :P This deck is more interesting than a traditional control deck though, I have cut down to only two hard counters, and pick up the slack with hand disruption. The goal of this deck isn't to strait up counter everything, but rather deny the opponent an advantage, using soft counters to force them to pay more for spells and hand disruption to force them to cast spells or lose them. I have always found this type of control deck more interesting to both use and play against. It also requires more skill to pilot, but can be noticeably better than a traditional deck, because of the massive mana advantage you gain.
Really? I think the traditional list is a blast. UW Control, plus 4 Fliers with a Sword of Feast and Famine. That card's untap lands is SICK in a control deck!
Mhmmmm. Outside it being a 1-hit KO with Bloodcheif's Ascension and luck moves like hitting JTMS, I have never really found it useful.
Thanks :) How do you like the ramp engine in this deck? Its the best (non-temporary) I have been able to build so far. On the topic of Progenitus being awesome: Yeah, he is. Pro-everything is kind of ridiculous. In my lands deck, Progen is the only card I actually worry about. My regular anti-creature cards stop Iona, Darksteel, Eldrazi, ect. But not Progen. Glacial Chasm is basically in that deck for three reasons. Dredge, Progen, and Progen.
I have one, its the same name. If you see me on, send me a message. I play T2 and Legacy.
Nice call. Done some retouching, increasing the mana disruption and bringing in thoughtseize for duress. Also followed your suggestion regarding Buried Alive. What do you think now?
4 Stoneforge for 2 Equips hasn't been a problem for me actually, and its what most Caw-Blade is running. In the origonal draft of this deck I had the Sword mb and the staff sb... dunno why I changed that.
As a PTQ Affinity player, I feel the need to point out that your statement includes the understatement of the year :D Or maybe I just like my deck too much... I've never heard of Solidarity either. I wouldn't worry about it, I doubt its a T1-2 deck
How about you replace the 5 drops with Tutelage?
You gotta run 4 Bloodghast and 4 Kalastria Highborn. In addition to being two of the best vampires in the game, they also are sick together, since every time Bloodghast gets killed you can pay for Kalastria. To fit these guys in, I would drop all 7 of your most expensive cards. Don't get me wrong, they are all good cards, but the speed boost this move will give you is amazing. Not to mention you will start winning games off those two cards alone. For the 8th spot I would drop the Swords of Vengence. Again, great card, but SLOW! You play it T3, and equip it T4 right? Thats a major mana investment. Its the same as THREE bloodghasts! And, once the equipped creature gets killed, you gotta waste the mana again. Plus artifacts are easy to kill. The other sword can be replaced by another Blade of the Bloodcheif. Every reason not to play the Sword is a reason to play the Blade. It is up and running for less than it costs to drop the Sword, it makes the vampire MUCH harder to kill, and if it's destroyed... well, your Night Hawk is still a 6/7. I do not like Quag Sickness. Its costly, and very inefficient. Run Grasp of Darkness instead. Its one mana cheaper, always gives -4/-4, and... Name an indestructible creature with toughness greater than 4 that costs less than 7 mana... Oh wait, you cant. I mean, yea, maybe if they drop a Blightsteel you would rather have Quag. But for Quad to kill him you need 11 swamps... not really happening. On the sb, I would add Duress for sure. Its a simply wonderful card vs control. Then add its twin, Inquisition of Kozelik. Bye bye goblin guide! Also, you can target yourself with IoK to discard bloodghast if you wanna try some shenanigans. Consume the Meek is a major no no. It kills all your guys. That cards for decks with 3-6 creatures.
So after a lot of test draws, I've decided you guys are right. 3 Stoneforge is the way to go. I also think I have a few too many equips mb so I'm moving body and mind to the sb.
Bloodghast is a must have for this deck! Go for the Throat should replace doom blade. Duress because you are wide open vs control. Also Lacerator or Viscera Seer as another 1-drop. Have you concidered Blade of the Bloodcheif?
Elspeth, in control? Really? How exactly does she help you? If you are tapping out T5 you need to be playing a very good card. What matchups does she help with? Caw Blade ignores her, Control doesn't care, Valakut doesn't care... She seems to simply be a win more card. In a tight game, would you rather draw Gideon or Elspeth? Or even Venser?
You don't run the three best vampires in T2, Lacerator, Bloodghast, and Highborn. I am confused. You also run Doom Blade, which has a strictly better version, disentomb, and exsanguiate.... Why? Looks like you took a vampire deck, slowed it down, and took out the best cards. Why?
Ok, Elspeth is Terrible! Drop her and run another Jace. I also think you are too heavy on conditional removal, late game your counters get much much worse. I would suggest Wurmcoil over BSA. Wurmcoil is much harder to kill. I think Wall of Omens is a better cantrip than Sea Gate because he withstands a bolt and comes down a turn earlier. Deprive is interesting, but I fear you will too often not have the island. The Leyline is just plain bad, a waste of mana and space. I would throw in either 2 lands or counterspells. MCB is dead, and doesn't look like it will make a comeback. UB is just better, and few people are playing that now despite Tarpits, BSZ, and Duress. What testing have you done with this?
Stoneforge is a card I want to draw every game. So why not run 4? I think that my equipment base is fine too, I have all the good ones. Not sure why you don't think I should have this mana base... I'm interested in your ideas, please elaborate the reasoning behind them?
I don't actually plan on having more than 1 or 2 out ata time really, so I don't think Etched will be that good. Sure, I'll check you out.
Hmmm... I'll try it out.
Updated. What do you guys think now?
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